Since I have joined Armorgams . . .I see a lot of Atheists and their threads about why people believe in God etc . . . I wanted to start a thread about the bible and christianity.
The purpose of this thread is to debate a different book of the bible each week. We will discuss lessons, morals, and different stories.
We will have friendly debates. Please . . . if you are atheist or of other beliefs . . . you may discuss in this thread, just PLEASE no fighting, flaming, spamming, trolling . . . etc
This week we will begin from the beginning . . . .Genesis
We have to wait for someone to begin a debate . . .Maybe Alt will start a debate by saying that Daniel could not have survived a night in a lion's den without being injured or killed . . .
Well snazzy that is a obvious question which has and obvious answer . God is all powerful and all knowing . He did not want Daniel to get hurt in any shape or form so God shut the mouths of the lions . Simple as that .
If I must nitpick go please you guys, this story sounds more like a moral anecdote then a real occurrence - Daniel most likely would also not be able to see the king's dream, unless he got a very lucky guess.
Daniel most likely would also not be able to see the king's dream, unless he got a very lucky guess.
Of course, remember that the Bible looks at it from the perspective that God revealed the dream to him, not that he guessed. In that time back then, it's easy to see why God would need to step in. People didn't even know how to behave in society. Kings would execute wisemen because they couldn't read his mind. Nowadays, we have more of an age of reason and thought. Hand-in-hand with that is the morality not to kill people because they don't know what you alone saw in your dreams. I know you could make the argument that there are still cruel things going on in our world even today, but by the same token, God would have to appear to every man, woman, and child, and change who we ultimately are altogether to get us to believe. By appearing to one person, he allows the natural flow of our individuality to stay put while correcting a problem. Rant over.
I don't think Daniel would be able to randomly guess the king's dream . . .there had to be another factor helping Daniel . . .Like God.
Or, the more likely answer, that it was one of the Bible's moral stories that didn't actually happen, but is intended to shape the moral aspect of Christianity.
Or, the more likely answer, that it was one of the Bible's moral stories that didn't actually happen, but is intended to shape the moral aspect of Christianity.
The only thing wrong with this is that the only book in the bible that could have been possibly written as a pure metaphor is Genesis, seeing as it was written in a poetic form. Also seeing how Daniel was a prophet and I think was one of the men who gave the conditions for Jesus's life/birth, saying this is a moral story questions the later aspects of the bible.
Also seeing how Daniel was a prophet and I think was one of the men who gave the conditions for Jesus's life/birth, saying this is a moral story questions the later aspects of the bible.
The only thing wrong with this is that the only book in the bible that could have been possibly written as a pure metaphor is Genesis, seeing as it was written in a poetic form. Also seeing how Daniel was a prophet and I think was one of the men who gave the conditions for Jesus's life/birth, saying this is a moral story questions the later aspects of the bible.
I'm not talking about it being a metaphor - I'm saying it was possible that this particular story was a moral story rather than one that actually happened.
And also, if this story isn't true, that doesn't necessarily question the later aspects of the Bible. If a supposed prophet is in one Bible story that didn't really happen, it isn't questioning his prophetness - it's just using the character to teach a moral.
