Since I have joined Armorgams . . .I see a lot of Atheists and their threads about why people believe in God etc . . . I wanted to start a thread about the bible and christianity.
The purpose of this thread is to debate a different book of the bible each week. We will discuss lessons, morals, and different stories.
We will have friendly debates. Please . . . if you are atheist or of other beliefs . . . you may discuss in this thread, just PLEASE no fighting, flaming, spamming, trolling . . . etc
This week we will begin from the beginning . . . .Genesis
I think Atheists main argument is that since we have no proof if does exist, that means it doesn't at all. That's like saying just because I can't see it, it's not there.
by what you say i can say, The flying spaghetti monster exists! you can't see him and there is no proof, but there is no proof against it so obviously he is real.
by what you say i can say, The flying spaghetti monster exists! you can't see him and there is no proof, but there is no proof against it so obviously he is real.
Thats your own personal Perogative, If you believe he exists Then by george he exists.
Theists are the prosecutors in this case, Atheists are the defendants. You must prove your claim, we just gotta poke enough holes in it to show your claim is bad.
That's where you're wrong. I don't have to prove anything to you, if you want proof, find it yourself. It's not my responsibility to prove something you're only looking to destroy.
You're assuming that I blindly follow, well I don't. I know pretty much the entire bible contradicts itself. Many people, including you, are putting God in a little box, you're assuming one thing about God that is not true for everyone. The truth is, is that we can not know what or who God is exactly. I, as an individual, may have a different definition of God than another Christian. There is a very wise person I know that says
Many rivers lead to one big ocean. Some rivers are faster, and some are slower.
Everyone finds their own spirituality. There is no one definition for God.
You're assuming that I blindly follow, well I don't
Then bring proof. Or it looks like you are blindly following, which you seem to be.
I know pretty much the entire bible contradicts itself
...So why do you believe in it?
Many people, including you, are putting God in a little box, you're assuming one thing about God that is not true for everyone.
If your god was real, then he would be the same no matter who was observing it. That is how science works. Experiments are reproducible, or they are wrong.
The truth is, is that we can not know what or who God is exactly.
...And why would that be? Why wouldn't this being just go" Hia! This is what I am."? Especially if he cared, for whatever reason. And if he doesn't care, than what is the point in believing in this being anyway?
I, as an individual, may have a different definition of God than another Christian
Then most of you are wrong.
Everyone finds their own spirituality. There is no one definition for God.
So lets apply that to another fact of the universe, like gravity. "Everyone has their own idea about gravity, there is no one definition. Gravity is different for everyone"...Nope. Doesn't work. So you are wrong. You can't just say "This is what I like, so it must be true!" and pretend it is. Facts are facts. It is a fact that there is no deity of any kind.
he's not a know it all he just knows more than you
i doubt that. its just that he is not restrained. the smartest restrain themselves.
Any way,314d1 is quite right. facts are facts. but, everyone DOES find their own spirituality. you can not compare it to science for they are opposites.
Then bring proof. Or it looks like you are blindly following, which you seem to be[quote]
You bring proof to disqualify my beliefs
If your god was real, then he would be the same no matter who was observing it. That is how science works. Experiments are reproducible, or they are wrong.
Could it not be that god always gave the same but humans interpretted it differently"
So lets apply that to another fact of the universe, like gravity. "Everyone has their own idea about gravity, there is no one definition. Gravity is different for everyone"...Nope. Doesn't work. So you are wrong. You can't just say "This is what I like, so it must be true!" and pretend it is. Facts are facts. It is a fact that there is no deity of any kind.[quote]
Dude how many things can you prove to me right now? Give me cold hard facts that are fullproof.
Maybe. But we all live in one reality, so if one of you is correct, and it is one that says there is only one god that only he himself believes in, then everyone else is wrong. And it is highly unlikely that there is even that one.
You bring proof to disqualify my beliefs
Look at Leet's example of a courtroom.
Dude how many things can you prove to me right now? Give me cold hard facts that are fullproof.
Gravity pulls to objects toward each other. There is never a case when this is not true.
