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samy
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After putting some thought into the status of our public school, and the intellectual presence of America on the world stage. I've come to realized than the majority of our problems could be solved with smarter kids and the best way to get smarter kids is to get a better public school system.

And now debate.

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VoteSocialist
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What's the point in having private schools when public schools produce some intelligent individuals? Nationalize, nationalize, NATIONALIZE!

Maverick4
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What's the point in having private schools when public schools produce some intelligent individuals? Nationalize, nationalize, NATIONALIZE!


But what if the private schools can foster intelligent individuals in their unique atmosphere? I was in a public school, before transfering to a Christion-Private School. Simply put, I got better grades. In a Democratic society, people have the choice of whether or not to put their children or themselves into a private school.
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Christion-Private School.


Then let us have a state-funded Christian-Public School! Same teachers, same environment, but now it's socialized and anyone can go! Think of the children being cheated out of their future because they couldn't afford their future! And if they get back grade, they can be thrown out and sent to the regular public schools!
samy
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I agree. In most cases it's not the schools fault that the kids are failing, but the students. Then the students complain to their parents about the school, and we hear about how the school doesn't have good enough teachers. Of course some schools don't have good teachers and it really is their fault, but I don't think that's the case in most cases. Kids in the U.S. are just lazy.


Unfortunatly your right, I think it has something to do with our mentality of being "the best country in the world" that makes us think we don't need to care because were already on top.

Then let us have a state-funded Christian-Public School! Same teachers, same environment, but now it's socialized and anyone can go! Think of the children being cheated out of their future because they couldn't afford their future! And if they get back grade, they can be thrown out and sent to the regular public schools!


While I get what your saying it would take away the private part of the school, now I do think we should dived schools into three levels of average, above average, and below average. But this would require funding and teachers we don't have, screw stimuluses.
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Then let us have a state-funded Christian-Public School!


I'm not against nationalizing the education system, but I am against there being no separation between Church and state. Having government funded Christian private schools would encourage religios influence in the government.
samy
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Having government funded Christian private schools would encourage religios influence in the government.


Or visa versa, both possibilities are a bit terrifying.
VoteSocialist
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The government funds them so people don't have to pay, the state doesn't have to be telling them what to do.

Graham
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if government funds them then all the people in the country are paying

VoteSocialist
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if government funds them then all the people in the country are paying


But since everyone pays it's easier for lower class people. There's no big tuition money or anything.
Graham
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this is not just one school, since everyone pays for them then the quality would be at a set low because the good schools would combine with the bad.

VoteSocialist
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this is not just one school, since everyone pays for them then the quality would be at a set low because the good schools would combine with the bad.


Has that ever even happened before?
Graham
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i dunno... i was just using what makes sense in my mind

the good schools are the most loudspoken so there are few of them (from minorities are loudspoken)

the bad schools are unheard of (children in africa)

if you combine a good ice cream and a bad hot day then you get a worse ice cream


^that was my thinking

but no i haven't even studied about public schools and i'm willing to admit it :b

Graham
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if you combine a good ice cream and a bad hot day then you get a worse ice cream - lemme explain this more

you get a fresh ice cream on a hot day and it tastes wonderful. then 2 minutes later you notice it is slightly melted so you try to eat it faster. soon all of the ice cream has been melted and you're sad, sitting on the sidewalk with a cone in your hand. don't expect good results last forever

Graham
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agh too many thoughts about this to keep from triple posting

^that analogy also represents the bear&bull market. it becomes bull when you get another ice cream

Graham
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first time quad posting.. high five anyone? no 1 will reply so sorry for wanting to express my opinion more

there's no such thing as a free lunch. WW2 was the payment for an ice cream.

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