ForumsWEPRGay marridge why does the goverment care?

117 17780
tyler0284
offline
tyler0284
119 posts
Nomad

I cant understand why the goverment cares...Im not gay but isnt it against the 1st admendment?? what do you guys think

  • 117 Replies
Zootsuit_riot
offline
Zootsuit_riot
1,523 posts
Nomad

Lietenut had it right; every Civil Rights Movement is a repeat of another. Hell, the conservative right that are in opposition to legalizing gay marriage are using the same "It's not natural," "It would ruin the sanctity of my own marriage," that they did in the Civil Rights Movement of the 60's in regards to African-Americans marrying Caucasian women.

Reijav
offline
Reijav
75 posts
Nomad

To have a better idea about this... pleas watch the episode of " 30 Days " TV show about Same sex parenting... it helps a lot to make an opinion.

Reijav
offline
Reijav
75 posts
Nomad

To have a better idea about this... pleas watch the episode of " 30 Days " TV show about Same sex parenting... it helps a lot to make an opinion.

JJ52
offline
JJ52
1,150 posts
Nomad

ADAM AND EVE, NOT ADAM AND STEVE!!! Thats all I got to say, same gender marriages are against my religion.

Moabarmorgamer
offline
Moabarmorgamer
8,570 posts
Nomad

I think it's probably against the first amendment, yeah, but who is in charge of checking whether or not we're breaking the laws?
The judicial branch. And the judicial branch doesn't want gay/lesbian marriage, so that's how it is.
Basically, when a governor or the president chooses between gay/lesbian marriage or keeping things the same, they're choosing between whether they want gays/lesbians to vote for them or if they want Christians to vote for them. The government cares because if they pass a law allowing gay/lesbian marriage, they will lose the Christian vote. You see what I'm saying?

Green12324
offline
Green12324
4,097 posts
Peasant

ADAM AND EVE, NOT ADAM AND STEVE!!! Thats all I got to say, same gender marriages are against my religion.


Luckily, the government isn't based on religion. At least not totally <.<
Lieutenut
offline
Lieutenut
1,251 posts
Nomad

Lietenut had it right; every Civil Rights Movement is a repeat of another


thanks hoping someone was gonna read that

ADAM AND EVE, NOT ADAM AND STEVE!!! Thats all I got to say, same gender marriages are against my religion.


wow.....just wow =/ you know what else is against your religion? birth control. Oh you know what else is against your religion? masterbating. you know what else is against your religion? 85% of things that could help/is natural for people to do... ya your religion isn't always right.

and besides it wasn't adam and eve... it was something from the water coming on to land and evolving into primates.... then eventually humans and overtime to what we are today.
ligaboy
offline
ligaboy
1,051 posts
Peasant

I think it's probably against the first amendment, yeah, but who is in charge of checking whether or not we're breaking the laws?


The first amendment? The one allowing freedom of speech, press, assembly, petition and religion? How so?

ADAM AND EVE, NOT ADAM AND STEVE!!! Thats all I got to say, same gender marriages are against my religion.


Christianity shouldn't have a say in the politics of a country with religious freedom.
Lieutenut
offline
Lieutenut
1,251 posts
Nomad

Christianity shouldn't have a say in the politics of a country with religious freedom.


well said ligaboy
SuperzMcShort
offline
SuperzMcShort
325 posts
Nomad

In response to the original question, the government cares because couples who are married enjoy different legal obligations and benefits that couples who are not married do not enjoy. So because the government ultimately has to decide whether gay couples can count as married for the purpose of hospital visitation rights and health decisions, how the can file taxes, etc, they have to care about the marriage issue.

monkeyman711
offline
monkeyman711
15 posts
Nomad

I think the whole thing is idiodic. im not gay but I think people should be able to do what they want.

LadyTurtleToes
offline
LadyTurtleToes
310 posts
Nomad

The government should get out of the marriage business all together. Marriage is essentially a religious institution so it's really up to religions weather or not they want to allow gays to marry. IMO the government should only recognize civil unions, not marriages in the religious sense, and gays should be allowed to have civil unions (civil union). I know that would probably piss alot of people off but that's their problem.


Saddly quoting myself from way back on page 3...
I still have to stand by this opinion. Marriage is religious concept. That's way I don't think the government should recognize it. I think there should be legal protocols for having a marriage and a civil union performed as one ceremony and freedom of speech dictates that a person can call a civil union a marriage if they like. I think that only civil unions should be recognized for government and legal purposes though.
SuperzMcShort
offline
SuperzMcShort
325 posts
Nomad

Marriage is essentially a religious institution so it's really up to religions weather or not they want to allow gays to marry.


The institution that has since been translated into marriage was around for far longer then the religious use of it. If I remember correctly it developed back in Roman times as a legal agreement between two people that could take multiple forms (often such as modern pre-nups as so on). It was not originally a religious institution, so I don't see why it should have to be called such.

That said I can understand that in modern society there are different connotations surrounding the word itself, so if the government were to stop recognizing "marriages" and started to recognize "civil unions" for all people I would be fully behind it. Still, there's going to be a debate regardless, because in states that already allow civil unions to take place with the full benefits of marriage there are already movements to deny gays and lesbians those rights.
HiddenDistance
offline
HiddenDistance
1,310 posts
Peasant

Marriage is religious concept. That's way I don't think the government should recognize it.


You can be married in a courthouse by a judge. That's not religious at all.

Hey Black people, you still get to sit down on the bus, just not at the front - that's equal, isn't it?
Xavier1
offline
Xavier1
671 posts
Nomad

Hey Black people, you still get to sit down on the bus, just not at the front - that's equal, isn't it?

Of course! Next thing you know you'll be telling me it's not equal if the handicapped have to go up flights of stairs to get into buildings.
Showing 61-75 of 117