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nichodemus
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Title says it all.

Preferably...can someone give me arguments for the death penalty? School debate >.<

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nichodemus
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They killed someone. People who murder and do terrible things are going to continue doing terrible things. there's two solutions:
1. We can lock them up in prison for life and that crowds up prisons and them become expensive to maintain, which we citizens must pay for. or 2. We kill them the victim's family gets justice, and a carzy person is gone. Win Win.


Solution 3, reeducation.

Just because they commited a crime does not allow for the fact you have to punish them via death. And you cannot come to the conclusion that they will, that they definitely, that they are going to commit similar crimes in the future. Plus, not all murderers are crazy, insane psychopaths.
xDethklokx
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Plus, not all murderers are crazy, insane psychopaths.


Thank you! People in this forum are either really young and naive or stupid. They think because they saw a Jason movie he portrays every murderer. Time in jail can help; despite many opinions that murder via the death penalty is the only option. People have the ability to make poor decisions...they also have the ability to CHANGE.
deserteagle
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Solution 3, reeducation.


That would work in Perfectvile, but atlas; this isn't the case. Most w people who go to jail, return to jail. Granted a few people change, but the vast majority don't. Besides you preach love but you are probably afraid of an ex-murderer. (like I am.)

Thank you! People in this forum are either really young and naive or stupid. They think because they saw a Jason movie he portrays every murderer.


Did you see the three guys one hammer video? It leaves scars. There is not such thing as a clean and pretty homicide. Homicide is Homicide. The only exception to getting away with murder are: Kill in self-defense 2. To kill in the battlefield 3. To kill a person who has murdered r.ape etc.

Why am I stupid for having a different opinion than you? I'm entitled to mine as are you entitled to yours.
xDethklokx
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Why am I stupid for having a different opinion than you? I'm entitled to mine as are you entitled to yours.


I did not mean stupid in your opinion...what I meant to say was ignorant. Not all murderers are insane...Wrong word choice on my part.
deserteagle
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Not all murderers are insane...Wrong word choice on my part.


Is there a sane murderer?
BigP08
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You know, this is a tough issue. On the one hand, like Deserteagle was saying, killing the murderers is cheaper, safer for everyone else, and easier in the long-run. On the other hand, potential danger and cost might not be enough to judge a man worthy to die.

Personally, I stand against it, but I can see it from both angles.

xDethklokx
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Is there a sane murderer?


Ok; I'll make up a scenario for you. How about a guy who just lost his job and is on the streets. He has no money for food so he kills a man and steals his wallet. He just wanted the money, he didn't kill him because he was messed up in the head. People do drastic things when their desperate. This man would then be able to contemplate why what he has done was wrong in prison. Prison would probably scare him and set him straight again.
BigP08
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Ok; I'll make up a scenario for you. How about a guy who just lost his job and is on the streets. He has no money for food so he kills a man and steals his wallet. He just wanted the money, he didn't kill him because he was messed up in the head. People do drastic things when their desperate. This man would then be able to contemplate why what he has done was wrong in prison. Prison would probably scare him and set him straight again.

I think they would make exceptions. It's not like they would kill every murderer, just the ones who did it for spite/insanity. Not that I support it, though, but just saying.
deserteagle
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Why not mug him? Or just pick pocket him? Or hell get a job.

his man would then be able to contemplate why what he has done was wrong in prison. Prison would probably scare him and set him straight again.


Great expect for one thing: Employers don't exactly like ex-murderers(let alone gone to jail). So what's this guy going to do? Well in prison they feed you and your are fairly clean so, it would be in Bob's best interest to go to jail again.
xDethklokx
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Lol ok it's not a perfect scenario, but you get my point right? Not all murderers are insane.

deserteagle
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Well not all murderers have a mental disorder but they all are very psychologically instable.

nichodemus
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Did you see the three guys one hammer video? It leaves scars. There is not such thing as a clean and pretty homicide. Homicide is Homicide. The only exception to getting away with murder are: Kill in self-defense 2. To kill in the battlefield 3. To kill a person who has murdered r.ape etc.


A single example does not represent a majority you know. And as far as I know, there are programs in some countries which try to help ex-convicts get jobs. And there has been success.
deserteagle
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And as far as I know, there are programs in some countries which try to help ex-convicts get jobs. And there has been success.


Well it probably depends on what they did. If they didn't pay taxes or stole a car or lied about some financial matters(white collar crime.) they probably could get a job. But not too many people want to hire pedo-philes or r.apeists.
nichodemus
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Just because they have no potetial future, does not mean they have to be killed.

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it depends if the person killed more than 5 people went to jail escaped got caught again then that person is to dangerous in my eyes

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