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samy
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In an attempt to keep another thread on topic I decided to create this one. How important was Jesus? In my opinion he is the single most important man in human history. Was he God? Well honestly that's not what this is about so shh go argue on some other thread.

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Flett1989
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Mohammed is the reason behind the most deaths in the worlds History of human beings.

Moegreche
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Here are a few of the similarities between Jesus and the Roman cult god Mithra, whose popularity ended him into the mainstream of Roman myth.

# Virgin birth
# Twelve followers
# Killing and resurrection
# Miracles
# Birthdate on December 25
# Morality
# Mankind's savior
# Known as the Light of the world
Here is a link to more info on Mithraism.
For a very long time I believed that Jesus probably was a real figure, but simply another prophet of a god that didn't exist. In light of this information on Mithra, I no longer accepted that Jesus ever lived.
Those of who you claim that his historical existence is undeniable are clearly ignorant of plain fact. I don't mean that in a "you're stupid" kind of way, but what ignorant actually means - you simply haven't been exposed to this evidence.
People who believe in Jesus, I think, are justified in their beliefs if that's all they've been exposed to. But those who have critically examined the evidence on all sides, not just those positive facts in support of Jesus, I think would reach the conclusion I have.
If you've read up on Mithra and still accept Christianity, then I don't think you're beliefs are rational anymore.
The consequence?
Clearly some sort of Jesus-like figure has been extremely important for thousands of years. It's unlikely this figure ever existed. So the idea is what's important, and that's something I can get behind.
At it's core, the Jesus/Mithra story is about forgiveness, sacrificing oneself for the betterment of humanity, love, and inspiring people.
But that's where the story ends. Jesus himself has no importance because he never existed. But the idea does have great social import.

AnaLoGMunKy
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Clearly some sort of Jesus-like figure has been extremely important for thousands of years.


My main thought is why does this same figure keep popping up in different religions.
balerion07
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He doesn't. Jesus is the only son of Jehovah.

MageGrayWolf
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He doesn't. Jesus is the only son of Jehovah.


No there were numerous characters with a similar back story to Jesus. It was a pretty common theme back them.

Horus, Krishna, Mithra ,Jesus and many many more...

Basically Monty Pythons Life Of Brian had more historically accurate.
AnaLoGMunKy
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Basically Monty Pythons Life Of Brian had more historically accurate.


I wanna watch life of brian now.

He doesn't. Jesus is the only son of Jehovah.


And Im not talking strictly jesus here, more the fact that, like Mage said, there are other guys with the same story behind them.
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Jesus was schizophrenic and believed he saw God. God is not real, and I think that either a. he was a schizo, or he hallucinated a lot. EIther one shows no importance. . . So I don't think he is important.

balerion07
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So the accounts of hundereds of people mean nothing???

MageGrayWolf
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So the accounts of hundereds of people mean nothing???


What accounts?
deserteagle
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The people that followed him, saw him, and witnessed his miracles


Question: If people witnessed his miracles, why did like 90% of the Jewish population didn't believe that he was the Messiah?
MageGrayWolf
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The people that followed him, saw him, and witnessed his miracles


Oh you mean the accounts in the Bible, no they don't count.
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LOLZ!

TheDude42
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If you've read up on Mithra and still accept Christianity, then I don't think you're beliefs are rational anymore.

Apparently they still are, because that is not ample evidence to disprove Jesus. Coincidences happen, many completely seperated civilizations have similar gods.
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Abraham was WAY more influential. Without him there would be no cristians, jews or muslims.

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