Global warming is real right? I mean the green house effect is real but there is so much controversy about if its man made or not, and even if it is man made will it kill us all. I think that it is man made and it will kill us all, but i want your opinion.
Yes it was man made and if you think a 1 or 2 degree climate shift wouldn't do much, think again. There is frozen methane at the bottom of some oceans. That methane is a 25X more potent green house gas as carbon dioxide. so much as a 1 degree Celsius shift would cause it to unfreeze, go into the atmosphere and reek havoc. We would all be dead in a matter of years.
That is until molten lava from beneath the crust breaks through, but that is a different subject entirely.
Val, something doesn't have to have sound and pictures to be propaganda.
When the rain forest is gone, we will die. Deforestation is accelerating our imminent doom as a species. It's all man made.
What do you call this?
We won't die from running out of oxygen as almost all of it is produced by kelp. You are making huge exaggerations to back your claims.
Definition of Propaganda: information, ideas, or rumors deliberately spread widely to help or harm a person, group, movement, institution, nation, etc.
@valk we're inna interglacial period! 12.2 degrees C is the high for an ice age and we're at 14 C. throughout most of the earth's history it's been 20-22 degrees C.
"global warming" is bull shitt. the earths weather has been shown to change dramatically in the past, it even had ice ages. and once the scientist that came up with this changed global warming to "climate change" once they realized that it wasnt warming up the earth. in my opinion, its just another thing for the government to make money off of and scare people into thinking that they need a more powerful government to "take care of the earth or else it'll blow up"
A prediction, prophecy, for-telling of the future. Whatever floats your boat mate, I don't care. It only seems logical, but logic has been wrong before.
Anyways, whatever is happening it sounds like we'll survive. I just remember all the elementary school rants about how unless we are a prominent factor in dealing with global warming and deforestation that we are all doomed.
AKA you had some fruity hippy teachers that indoctrinated you to believe that we are all screwed simply because of some disappearing trees. If all the trees in the world were gone we would still have enough oxygen from kelp, and if all the kelp died, there is still electrolysis.
If all the trees in the world were gone we would still have enough oxygen from kelp
We would, but not as much. 30% comes from all all of the trees. We would probably be fine, but the air quality would be much poorer than we are use to.
About 3-6% less than is already in the atmosphere. Not much more or less.
How does that work since 30% of all oxygen on earth would be gone without tress? If there were no trees, almost a third of our oxygen goes away. Most oxygen is made by kelp, about 70%, 20% of which is in the atmosphere. It's worse than just 3-6%.
If all the trees in the world were gone we would still have enough oxygen from kelp, and if all the kelp died, there is still electrolysis.
It's not about having enough oxygen, it's about having biomatter to continue to hold in CO2 rather than have it in the atmosphere. Trees, due to their long lifespan, are much more adept at this than kelp.
How does that work since 30% of all oxygen on earth would be gone without tress? If there were no trees, almost a third of our oxygen goes away. Most oxygen is made by kelp, about 70%, 20% of which is in the atmosphere. It's worse than just 3-6%.
There's about 20% total oxygen in the atmosphere. Do the math. 2% is 10%. Multiply 2 by 3 and you get 6.
"global warming" is bull ****t. the earths weather has been shown to change dramatically in the past, it even had ice ages. and once the scientist that came up with this changed global warming to "climate change" once they realized that it wasnt warming up the earth. in my opinion, its just another thing for the government to make money off of and scare people into thinking that they need a more powerful government to "take care of the earth or else it'll blow up"
That may be true but if the average temperature rises by so much as 4 degrees celcius then without the release of methane from oceans or not we would die.
That may be true but if the average temperature rises by so much as 4 degrees celcius then without the release of methane from oceans or not we would die.
i do not understand then without the release of methane from oceans or not
oh and *facepalm*
for the third time i will say this.
Patrick Moore - Founding Member of Greenpeace has a PhD in ecology, left Greenpeace in mid 1980s feeling they had become an extremist group which followed an anti-human and anti-science agenda.
"As a matter of fact we're in an Ice Age right now. It may be an interglacial period, but it's only 14.2 degrees Celsius average temperature on the earth today. At the height of the Ice Age it was about 2.2 degrees cooler, at around 12 degrees. Through much of the earth's history it's been at 22 degrees Celsius. When there was no ice at either pole and all the land was tropical and subtropical. In fact, ice is the enemy of life. When you pass through tropical to subtropical to winter and frost regions, biodiversity plummets by about 90%. I don't think it would be a bad thing for this earth to warm up."
