One day i was thinking: wouldnt be life better without religion?
Why did i think that? There are a lot of reasons:
1.War. Since religion was created, there was wars. One religion again a other, just because they don't agree with each other. Or like WW2, it was for making a religion (christians) to become powerfull and killing other religions (jews). U.S.A think that "god" is on they side and start killing whatever by the name of god. And same thing with the terorists.
2.Stops Science. A lot of famous people like Galileo or Copernic where stoped, cause they didnt have the same point of view then the church. Darwin had a lot of problems, and people didnt believe him, just because it was against religion.
3.Injustice. Womens where lower in society then mens. Mostly in Indu or Muslim, the women couldnt do anything. Had to hide face, couldnt choose who to marry. Also, there wasnt any freedom of speech. If u think differently then the religion, you get killed, tortured or you get send to prison.
So. Here is a question: Wouldnt life be better without religion? Wouldnt we be like 50 years in the futur in science? Wouldnt everyone be happier without a religion? Just living your life normaly....
The point is that history is filled with hatred for the jews.
In Islamic Spain, Jews were quite famous. Idk, There are many places were Jews are liked, I used to live in St. Louis, MO and I knew tons of them. They were alright Just because current Muslims don't agree with Israel is totally different, there are many reasons why they don't. For the most part, that is all politics, and the rather mean Israeli PM
So. In my opinion. If there wasn't any religion. You newbies wouldn't have your elektricitE. (After all, Europeans wouldn't have ventured out of Europe if not for their desire to spread Christianity. They may have destroyed 95% of the Mesoamerican population but... Benji Franklin made the lightbulb)
Besides, all it does is promote health and peace. Just because the world is full of lunatics doesn't change things, and I'm sure if there wasn't any religion then there would still be lunatics. Just using different words to excuse their acts.
Just because current Muslims don't agree with Israel is totally different, there are many reasons why they don't. For the most part, that is all politics, and the rather mean Israeli PM
I fail to see how the Israeli Prime Minister has anything to do with the Muslim hate of Israel, because that hate has been going on since long before the current prime minister (although I agree, this one is pretty mean).
(After all, Europeans wouldn't have ventured out of Europe if not for their desire to spread Christianity. They may have destroyed 95% of the Mesoamerican population but... Benji Franklin made the lightbulb)
It's likely if not Franklin someone else would have come along to do pretty much the same thing.
Besides, all it does is promote health and peace.
Guess that explains all the brutality in holy texts.
I agree that religion does occasionally have an adverse affect on society, however religion in its pure form is people who want/need something to believe to make them think that they have some purpose in the existence of ours. In reality no religion has ever done something evil or amoral, there have been radicals that have taken a once pure religion and perverted it into something shunned and despised a stigma upon society if you will. Last but not least, an obstruction to science!? In ancient times belief in religion was practically a given, yet it's from ancient cultures rich with religion, i.e. greeks, mayans, hindus, arabs etc. that the foundation the very basics for all our modern science came from.
people, last time i checked, the majority of religons promote peace and they kinda told us what right and wrong. without it, men might still have multiple wives and women wouldnt have equal rights.
I fail to see how the Israeli Prime Minister has anything to do with the Muslim hate of Israel, because that hate has been going on since long before the current prime minister (although I agree, this one is pretty mean).
The main reason is that Palestine + West = Israel. I wasn't really saying there was a direct connection between the things its just that Benjamin Netanyahu (I think?) pretty much disintegrated peace in the region after his re-election. Yasir Arafat, as stubborn as he was got somewhere in his life during his work as the leader of the PLO (Though, I know, he wasn't 100% nice). The re-elected PM of Israel, Netanyahu, is quite the conservative, and has put most of his efforts into backing Israel with major firearms. Each year his headlines of how to save the world reach areas in speeches, whilst any peace organizer from Palestine can't get his word out without rockets. A clear example would be when Obama, and France, and on occasion Britain have all tried to tell the madman to at least do his best to quit kicking native people out of the region to unlawfully make settlements for incoming immigrants. He refuses all the time. Its ethnic cleansing, and not only are leading nations abiding by it -- they are giving money to help the effort. He's just helping to add on the feeling of people being targeted. I have a friend from Iran, he knows enough about the Middle Eastern conflicts with Israel and the west enough to write books on it, and he's pretty young.
Onto the topic...
It's likely if not Franklin someone else would have come along to do pretty much the same thing.
Why's that? Your stance is to leave the future of humanity up to chance that someone else will do it? I'm sure nobody thought of Democracy until the European enlightenment, which would only have happened with Christian incentive to get people there in the first place and think about it. We could be years behind on navigation technology without the Islamic ideals of being a merchant in the 12th century. Without Chinese Confucianism, though it did destroy the lives of Women, it also pulled together a society that can manage to (at least a bit) control is enormous population.
Its safe to say someone would have thought of it, but why would they? Many inventors in history have been highly religious, and have only pursued their dreams of becoming big scientists because of religion. I don't think its cool to leave it up to chance. :S
@magegray
"and God said his descendants would be as numerous as the stars"
Why's that? Your stance is to leave the future of humanity up to chance that someone else will do it?
There is a certain amount of chance involved but Franklin wasn't the only person working with electricity. So if not Frankin then it's possible it would have been someone else.
Its safe to say someone would have thought of it, but why would they?
You seem to be under the impression that without religion we wouldn't be motivated to do anything. The majority of scientist today are not religiously motivated. So why do they do what they do? In a hypothetical world of no religion finding an answer to why modern day scientists are motivated would also answer the question of what would motivate historical scientists in a no religion world.
I guess I'm under that impression, but what I'm trying to say is that there is a motivation BEHIND religion. Whether you can be motivated by religion, pink fuzzy bunnies, or even the most awesome animal on the planet (Bears!) -- The point is, religion is part of it. The usual motivation it should bring around is one of peace and health.
Many inventors in history have been highly religious, and have only pursued their dreams of becoming big scientists because of religion. I don't think its cool to leave it up to chance. :S
Thats only in this world, and mostly in the past. In a world without religion people would have found other reasons to invent things and make scientific discoveries.
(I may spell it incorrectly but the quote is basicly) "Necesity is the mother of invention"
If we need somthing, that is a good enough motivation. Maney had riligios reasons, yes, but I can asume that it was only part of the reason they did it, and that others who they learned from's knolage whould be read by anohter person, possibly sooner, possibly later, and they whould be able to creat the same thing.
(I may spell it incorrectly but the quote is basicly) "Necesity is the mother of invention" If we need somthing, that is a good enough motivation. Maney had riligios reasons, yes, but I can asume that it was only part of the reason they did it, and that others who they learned from's knolage whould be read by anohter person, possibly sooner, possibly later, and they whould be able to creat the same thing.
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