One day i was thinking: wouldnt be life better without religion?
Why did i think that? There are a lot of reasons:
1.War. Since religion was created, there was wars. One religion again a other, just because they don't agree with each other. Or like WW2, it was for making a religion (christians) to become powerfull and killing other religions (jews). U.S.A think that "god" is on they side and start killing whatever by the name of god. And same thing with the terorists.
2.Stops Science. A lot of famous people like Galileo or Copernic where stoped, cause they didnt have the same point of view then the church. Darwin had a lot of problems, and people didnt believe him, just because it was against religion.
3.Injustice. Womens where lower in society then mens. Mostly in Indu or Muslim, the women couldnt do anything. Had to hide face, couldnt choose who to marry. Also, there wasnt any freedom of speech. If u think differently then the religion, you get killed, tortured or you get send to prison.
So. Here is a question: Wouldnt life be better without religion? Wouldnt we be like 50 years in the futur in science? Wouldnt everyone be happier without a religion? Just living your life normaly....
War Not really. Hitler did not have a real religion and he killed people because of hatred and because he was crazy. The Crusades was not only because of religion, i will point out, it was because of land and because the Catholic religion was so corrupt at this time.
Because the Crusades had nothing to do with religion. because Bush had said nothing about being influenced by his religion to go to war. Yes Hitler did have his own religious beliefs, as to if the influenced his actions is unclear.
Even if characters like Hitler were atheists there actions really can't be pointed directly at there lack of belief.
Stops Science Galileo was catholic... i believe. Also, during his time, influence in religion, art, and science was massive. This made the Renaissance. Also, because of Islam, science in the Mid East flourished. I dont really know how it stops science because scientist do progress with or without religion.
The Dark ages were also in a result or at the very least prolonged by religion. People like Galileo had what they discovered suppressed and were labeled heretics for what they found. It wasn't until years later people were able to look back at these finding and said "hey this guy may have just had something here" So the advancements that we could have made with out that suppress does add up.
Injustice Now this I completely do not understand. Religions and philosophies in all cultures promote equality. Islam does not oppress woman. Islamic cultures are in fact one of the first ones to give women education. It is just because todays media put a terrible image. Although early civilizations seem to oppress women, such as Mesopotamia, it was because of laws of government, not religion.
Okay how about gay rights to Merry? Slavery was sure prolonged by religion. Even today some women are regarded as being lesser then men because of religion. We even had someone on this forum saying women should be subservient to the man they are with.
Islam does not oppress woman.
To be fair in Islam the sexes are regarded as equal in the eyes of God. However this in ways is contradicted because the roles of what the sexes do are also defined by that religion.
it was because of laws of government, not religion.
Which was influenced by religion!
Plus, religion is one of the key component to have a civilization!
So you think we need to having something that is completely unfounded to feed to the masses in order to have a civilization?
Not to the ancient societies that had a working and decent system of laws, such as the Romans as I posted earlier. Yes, they did have gods and goddesses. Were they influential in law making? No. Is it really that hard to think morally that killing another person despite what they did to you is unjust? Surely even a Mesopotamian could figure that out!
And what I meant by this was: It didn't take a higher power to convince people that killing and stealing of possessions were wrong. That or carnal knowledge of a female without consent aka r***.
Because the Crusades had nothing to do with religion
I didn't say that. Of coarse some differences will cause dispute including religion. But the Crusades was not entirely based upon religion but more on land and corruption. I mean, lets say that religion did not exist at this time. There would still be conflict on differences.
The Dark ages were also in a result or at the very least prolonged by religion. People like Galileo had what they discovered suppressed and were labeled heretics for what they found. It wasn't until years later people were able to look back at these finding and said "hey this guy may have just had something here" So the advancements that we could have made with out that suppress does add up.
It is true that the dark ages happened after some religions spread, but it is the religions that also brought it out of it. Also, Galileo's projects inspired by his own religion, which happened many times throughout history.
Okay how about gay rights to Merry? Slavery was sure prolonged by religion.Even today some women are regarded as being lesser then men because of religion.
Ok gay marriage, I could understand although the religions, such as Islam, Christianity, Judaism, say it is wrong but should not unjust the gay people. Although it is the cause, i think that it is not understood and could be prevented with religion present.
Really, religion prolonged slavery? Explain please and thank you
Still, I know that slavery happened in religion, but i could only imagine that the slave was completely fair and treated right. Slaves are not a part of any religion, I'm pretty sure.
To be fair in Islam the sexes are regarded as equal in the eyes of God. However this in ways is contradicted because the roles of what the sexes do are also defined by that religion.
Islam is a religion that tries to have peace and control in the society and a guide to a peaceful life. Everybody has a role in a society, right? Therefore, it would only help to define these roles especially if a man and a woman is clearly different. Still, women are promoted to have an education and even work when needed.
Also, some woman are oppressed by men because of culture, not religion. Face it. Without religion, men would always think that it is the dominant sex.
Which was influenced by religion! What freakenstein said. Religions like Islam and Buddhism and Christianity had an influence only.
So you think we need to having something that is completely unfounded to feed to the masses in order to have a civilization?
I'm just saying that it is one of the key components in which historians declare if it is a civilizations. I don't know if it is needed, but personally, I think that it is better for people to have religion.
I didn't say that. Of coarse some differences will cause dispute including religion. But the Crusades was not entirely based upon religion but more on land and corruption. I mean, lets say that religion did not exist at this time. There would still be conflict on differences.
There may have been a few in power at the time motivated by the acquisition of land and power but the main drive of the crusades for most people were religiously motivated. Without that the crusades would have been far less then what they were. Trying to say it was mostly about land is just an attempt to shift the blame.
It is true that the dark ages happened after some religions spread, but it is the religions that also brought it out of it. Also, Galileo's projects inspired by his own religion, which happened many times throughout history.
We still see religion trying to suppress information even in today's world. Creationism is a great example of that. If you go on YouTube and type in False DMCA you should find plenty more examples. As for people like Galileo being religiously motivated, it would seem to me they were motivated more from wanting to learn about the world around them. If it was just a religious motivation they would have never accepted there own findings.
Ok gay marriage, I could understand although the religions, such as Islam, Christianity, Judaism, say it is wrong but should not unjust the gay people. Although it is the cause, i think that it is not understood and could be prevented with religion present.
But the struggle becomes far greater.
Really, religion prolonged slavery? Explain please and thank you
I can't really argue on some other religions but at least with Christianity one of the biggest ones around says numerous times in both the old and new testament that slavery is okay. As such as we are seeing with homosexuality it almost becomes a fight between archaic text people still follow and human rights and moderns life. The result is these things are prolonged until such archaic ways of thinking become cornered.
Islam is a religion that tries to have peace and control in the society and a guide to a peaceful life. Everybody has a role in a society, right? Therefore, it would only help to define these roles especially if a man and a woman is clearly different. Still, women are promoted to have an education and even work when needed.
So thee religious texts are telling them what they can and can't do to an extent?
Further more if this was such a great guide to a peaceful life why do we have extremists willing to kill themselves and others over it. Something prevalent not just in Islam but in many religions.
Also, some woman are oppressed by men because of culture, not religion. Face it. Without religion, men would always think that it is the dominant sex.
Okay I can admit this. However I can also still point to religion for prolonging such ways of thinking as well.
What freakenstein said. Religions like Islam and Buddhism and Christianity had an influence only.
Yes I can agree with what Freaknstein said. However when I see religious injustice I'm not really talking about someone who has wronged you so you wrong them back. I'm talking about situations where a person has something taken away for nothing.
Act A is considered immoral by X religion even though it doesn't really hurt anyone. But because of the beliefs of X religion act A is made against the law and unfairly punished or the person who has done act A is unfairly treated.
I'm just saying that it is one of the key components in which historians declare if it is a civilizations. I don't know if it is needed, but personally, I think that it is better for people to have religion.
From Wikipedia so sorry for any of the weird fonts that might crop up.
"A civilized society is often characterized by advanced agriculture, long-distance trade, occupational specialization, and urbanism. Aside from these core elements, civilization is often marked by any combination of a number of secondary elements, including a developed transportation system, writing, standards of measurement (currency, etc.), contract and tort-based legal systems, great art style, monumental architecture, mathematics, sophisticated metallurgy, and astronomy."
Religious views are, in essence, brainwashing our society at an early age to disregard the idea of science and banish the process of evolution, in place of what is described as "religious or pure" virtues. It may sound unlikely that humans derived from monkeys, but unlike creation, evolution is not a 7-day event, but rather a process that took/takes span over many years.
Sorry for double post, but religion is also the root cause or terrorism. Without Muslim or Islamic pride, the Twin Towers would still be standing, and neither Osama nor the Taliban would exist.
Without Muslim or Islamic pride, the Twin Towers would still be standing, and neither Osama nor the Taliban would exist.
I'm not quite sure about that. I don't think that the religion is the most important point for terrorists... Yeah, religion is a way to brainwash people but not the main reason for terrorism!
