well if any of u r familiar with the law of conservation and mass, then u know that it states that matter cannot be created from nothing, or completely destroyed. so evolutionists say this, then turn around and say the big bang created the universe as we know it. WTF!!?!?!?!the universe went from non existent to existent in a fraction of a nanosecond! and where did the bigbang come from? nothing? nope, because if the law of conservation and mass is true, then the bigbang isnt. simple...
Firt: Centre is a different way of spelling center. It is not American. Just like colour or armour.
Finally, an American that has a grasp of the English language.
Why do you disagree? What parts do you not agree with?
In reality the issue of the Big Bang has nothing to do with God, just the origins of the universe. The Big Bang theory is not an argument against God, but the contradiction with the holy texts is what creationists take issue with.
Firt: Centre is a different way of spelling center. It is not American. Just like colour or armour
*applauds* I would type like that, but my firefox spellcheck is strictly Americanized English. So many incorrect red lines! 8( ---------------------- I believe in the Big Bang (and the Big Crunch to a certain extent) because they are the most logical choices we've uncovered, but the Big Crunch is awfully reliant on the Theory of Relativity, which I personally think does not have a good chance to be true, because physicists have found a phenomenon in which something travels faster than light.
It is obviously a creator that made the big bang. That creator, still exists, probably in the form of dense energy.
This is what I can get out of both the theory of big bang, and the law of conservation of mass.
Think about it, if energy cannot be created or destroyed, there had to be one point where all the energy was created (big bang? who made that?) So it is somewhat logical to assume that there was a creator, but right now he is taking a hiatus.... a very long hiatus.
Think about it, if energy cannot be created or destroyed, there had to be one point where all the energy was created (big bang? who made that?) So it is somewhat logical to assume that there was a creator, but right now he is taking a hiatus.... a very long hiatus.
Ahem. If energy cannot be created or destroyed, then it could not have been created. You contradicted yourself. Also, there is another thread that I made called 'The Primeval atom' that discusses this issue. Look at it. You see, none of our perceptions are valid until a few nanoseconds after the Big Bang, so your notion that something would have had to have made the original compressed mass is fallacious.
Ahem. If energy cannot be created or destroyed, then it could not have been created.
What he's saying is that the energy had to come from somewhere, but not by god-less means, because only a thinking higher power could cause the energy to form, since energy cannot be created or destroyed. I'll go read your Primeval atom, though, and see if I understand better what you're saying.
because only a thinking higher power could cause the energy to form
We do not know that. You'll not be able to easily back up that statement sufficiently :P ------- Our very perception and basic understanding of the Universe doesn't apply until a few nanoseconds after the Big Bang! Because all space, and therefore, according to the Theory of Relativity, all time, would be concentrated in an extremely small space, and would therefore be all flubbed up.
well I am in AP physics, and my professor stressed that energy cannot be created or destroyed, (law of conservation of mass).
I was reading your primeval atom thread, and I have to say, that is like the idea of a creator. The atom came from somewhere, if it was from the other end of a black hole... then a black was the creator of the universe. Like I said the "idea" of a creator is imbued into a systemic anomaly (oxymoron I know).
I never said that it came from the end of a black hole. What I'm saying is that our perception of time, space, causation, and EVERYTHING does not apply. So, it may or may not be like a creator, because or perception would not apply :P It's mind-boggling. i personally am not sure where the original compressed mass came form. . .I'm still pondering it.
Dirkpit1[if the big bang was real then all the planets would spin in the same direction, due to science, and they dont, So people say that science disproves god but it only shows hes real] i totaly agree god made us (god being Jesus christ)
You know Steven Hawking proposed that there was a big bang, because of the background microwave radiation, and the universe in theory has been expanding. Almost like an explosion has taken place (this pushes everything out). So it is highly possible that there was a big bang, however, we do not know how all that energy was condensed in one place.
