well if any of u r familiar with the law of conservation and mass, then u know that it states that matter cannot be created from nothing, or completely destroyed. so evolutionists say this, then turn around and say the big bang created the universe as we know it. WTF!!?!?!?!the universe went from non existent to existent in a fraction of a nanosecond! and where did the bigbang come from? nothing? nope, because if the law of conservation and mass is true, then the bigbang isnt. simple...
As for how the initial singularity got there, we don't know. There are a few theories out there but nothing firmly established. However based on observation when you have nothing you have to have something on a quantum level. The space between atoms makes up for most of it's mass. So nothing weights something. Looking at this "nothing" on a quantum level we find (I think it was electrons but don't quote me on that) just pop in and out of existence. This effect that we are observing may be how the initial singularity got there in the first place arising out of a quantum state.
The best post I've read so far something that I understand and it makes sense.
Ok then there is just as much evidence on the creation of the Big Bang as there is for the God creator.
(Dubness2's reply is to MageGrayWolf's post.) The second best quote that I've heard for the simplicity of what Dubness2 said.
Ok then there is just as much evidence on the creation of the Big Bang as there is for the God creator.
The amount of evidence may be relatively similar, however, the types of evidence are completely different. The bible is a book. Evidence supporting the Big Bang derives from the essence of nature, and is much closer to reality than the bible.
How many times do you have to be babysitted, Dubness2? I understand if you are undereducated, but try thinking for yourself sometime.
By "observed event", I'm guessing that Mage was saying evidence for Big Bang/multiunvierse/etc is being gathered as we sit here posting, while evidence for God's existence, or the bible, was unearthed a LONG time ago and really has no connection to our current understanding of reality.
An observed event is something that we have seen happen. While God himself causing this to happen is not observed.
Is it possible that it is God causing these things to seemingly pop in and out of existence? Yes. But it's equally possible that it's magic pixies doing. The true answer is we don't know, and just because we don't know doesn't mean insert "God did it".
The most plausible explanation we have so far is that these things are going into other dimensions. So they don't always exist in just our 3, 4? dimensions. For example let's say you could only see in two dimensions of length and width but not height. This would mean anything above you would be unseen to you. So what we are seeing might not be them disappearing but just them moving out of our perception.
im not in depth in this...but i think that god could be a pruduct of a totally different big bang,as you said that matter cannot be created by nothing,or maybe god is something that is beyond materialism,maybe a true living entity that lives in our thought or somewhere that cant be found by humans,for if we cant even find osama,whats the chances of finding god,also,i heard that even if noone believes in god,some other thing will take it's place,as everyone depends on something,like a faith in it,even freethinkers may believe it their parents,government,pet dog,or even themselves,for without faith,hope may never be in the mind of the "faithless" person
Basically, we could prove his existance. If your riligion is correct if enough people prayed to god asking him to right "GOD WAZ HERE" on the White house in magic-lightning that stays in one place then that whould happen. But, it never has happened, now has it?
By "observed event", I'm guessing that Mage was saying evidence for Big Bang/multiunvierse/etc is being gathered as we sit here posting, while evidence for God's existence, or the bible, was unearthed a LONG time ago and really has no connection to our current understanding of reality.
Well your "guessing" here. So Its all just a guess of the beginning of time. Just pick and choose what we want to believe.
How many times do you have to be babysitted, Dubness2? I understand if you are undereducated, but try thinking for yourself sometime.
So I'm being "babysitted" just because I was asking a question on what he believes? How would I think to myself on what he believes I don't know him. You need to be careful before you judge someone's intelligence, cause you don't even know me.
How about none there is no evidence big bag was the beginning.
Also according the the theory of cyclic universe there was no beginning. Because after the a while the universe will just recycle it's self and create is self again.
Time is non-existential it's just the method of organizing our event created by humans. So it almost the same thing as saying the beginning of volume.
I don't think that humans have enough knowledge about space itself to infer the "beginning". But from present knowledge I would say there was none.
The most plausible explanation we have so far is that these things are going into other dimensions. So they don't always exist in just our 3, 4? dimensions. For example let's say you could only see in two dimensions of length and width but not height. This would mean anything above you would be unseen to you. So what we are seeing might not be them disappearing but just them moving out of our perception.
I'm not sure what your implying but the universe encompasses all dimensions. Membrane (M-Theory)
I won't bother arguing against god because it is beyond my scope of abilities to do so. Since science cannot disprove him and people keep changing their ideas about him when given new evidence or are just ignorant of it.
Seeing as I have no faith yet I have hope I would wager that line of thinking to be in error
maybe,or maybe you dont know where you put your faith into,it could be anything,anyone,anywhere,i put my faith into god and my will to make my friends happier,and im sure everyone has faith somewhere...
I'm not sure what your implying but the universe encompasses all dimensions.
We only perceive about 3-4 of them. So if something were to move in another dimension out of our perception it could appear to us to disappear and reappear.
maybe,or maybe you dont know where you put your faith into,it could be anything,anyone,anywhere,i put my faith into god and my will to make my friends happier,and im sure everyone has faith somewhere...
Faith believing in something without proof. The stuff I believe in has proof, it might not be much proof but it would still be proof. As such, no faith.
