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whyismynametom
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I get mad when i see Spanish subtitles on boxes or a Spanish news channel, i wonder how far is to far. I do not hate immigrants but i demand them to learn English if they come here. here are my reasons.
#1. If Spanish is on a cereal box why isn't everyone language known to man, not every one speaks English or Spanish in America.
#2. A country needs a dominant language to be successful and and to unite everyone in a way.
#3. Language should be like currency, you should have one main one, not a bunch.

i do not think people should only know English, i encourage learning other languages, but putting multiple languages on all items can lead to problems, and possible decrease communication in the USA.

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Ernie15
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Immigrants in America come from around the globe, meaning they don't all speak the same language. If they all learned English, however, they could share a common language with each other as well as us. I'd have no problem learning their language if it was just one language I'd need to learn to speak to every immigrant, but since there are so many immigrants from so many different places, it would make a lot more sense for them to learn my language than for me to learn all of their individual languages.

whyismynametom
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Ernie15 - that is what i should have said from the beginning

Dannybrenz
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i believe they should learn our language because i don't want to have someone who i can't communicate with, for their safety and mine, like for example someone is about to be hurt, you try to warn them, but they don't understand what you are saying, and they get hurt anyways. or in a restaurant they can't speak a word of english and hold up the line, i wouldn't travel anywhere else without knowing their language, because it's my job to make sure i'm understood not everyone elses

Drace
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I thought you were an Anarchist....


Anarchism is a branch of communism. Its not a whole another tree!
Cenere
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I got a question. If any of you moved to another, non-English country for a longer or shorter period of time, would you learn the native tongue, or communicate in English because it is a common language?

Drace
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I got a question. If any of you moved to another, non-English country for a longer or shorter period of time, would you learn the native tongue, or communicate in English because it is a common language?


If you move to another country where your language is not spoken, you MUST adapt.

The whole thread for me is pointless for this reason. I doubt any immigrants could live here for a long period of time without learning English.

Though, yes I'm definitely interested in learning more languages.
Cenere
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If you move to another country where your language is not spoken, you MUST adapt.

But English would be spoken. It is just the second/third language of the country (ex. Denmark). Most people would be able to understand you and reply, but it would not be the native language.
So basically, you would be able to communicate and thus have an almost normal life. Just wondering.

I do agree, though. No one would be able to have a proper life without being able to communicate, so it is not as much "should" as "has to".
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Anarchism is a branch of communism. Its not a whole another tree!


Accept one has a government that controls everything and the other has no government and the people share everything. That's a pretty big difference.
Drace
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Accept one has a government that controls everything and the other has no government and the people share everything. That's a pretty big difference.


Not in theory anyways. I don't care what you think will result if private property is abolished.

Communism by definition, and as a term used by the intellectuals who have advocated it, is a classless and stateless society.
Drace
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But English would be spoken. It is just the second/third language of the country (ex. Denmark). Most people would be able to understand you and reply, but it would not be the native language.
So basically, you would be able to communicate and thus have an almost normal life. Just wondering.

I do agree, though. No one would be able to have a proper life without being able to communicate, so it is not as much "should" as "has to".


Well I don't know. Majority of the media, newspapers, schools will still use the main language of the country.

Im Armenian and the city I'm living here has a huge proportions of Armenians, but everyone still learned English, with the exception of the older folks.
There are also a great amount of Asians and Latin Americans, and they have adapted as well.
Drace
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We also have to not forget about individual freedom. If someone doesn't want to learn a language, you can't make them and you shouldn't have a reason to, but it would be in their own personal benefit if they chose to do so.

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I'm not quite sure what the current thread of conversation is so I'm just going to aim my post at the OP...


Should Imagrants learn English?


As should the people that 'speak' it...

I get mad when i see Spanish subtitles on boxes or a Spanish news channel


It's called international TV, other than that i've never seen an normal news broadcast in a language other than english.

However I do agree with the overall point, immigrants in a country should learn how to speak the language of that country.
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nothing against cultures or races or anything like that, but the language used mostly throughout America is indeed English. I never did want to learn Spanish, but had to take a year of classes just to graduate. Thats crap. They should have to adjust to living here, not the other way around. I should not have had to waste my time to help them out with a barrier they knew there would be when they came here. Thats their problem, not mine. Yes, they should have to learn English, mixing pot or no mixing pot, I'm not going to use my time and efforts to help them out when they came here knowing we spoke a different language. Once again, their problem, not mine.

whyismynametom
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We also have to not forget about individual freedom. If someone doesn't want to learn a language, you can't make them and you shouldn't have a reason to, but it would be in their own personal benefit if they chose to do so.

there my friend you are wrong, we are not going around the world forcing people to learn our language, they are asking to JOIN US, so we can set the bar as high as we want
ex. Joining the swimming club(AMERICA)
Bob can't swim but wants to join(immigrant)
Bob says he shouldn't be forced to learn to swim(learn English)
Swim team says but that is what we do(speak English)
Bob says to bad you can't force me, and i still want to join anyways
NOW what does the swim team do, huh?
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