ForumsWEPRArizona's Way Of Thanking California For Boycotting Us

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xKimchix
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Congratulations California, you have boycotted us due to the immigration law. In defense, we, Arizona, will threaten to cut the power to Los Angeles.
Seriously

Since summer is coming up, LA is going to be stuck with no A/C and electricity and while our temperatures is going to skyrocket into the 100s, we always love surplus power

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Maverick5762
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You know, from where the rest of the U.S. stands, Arizona is the "bad guy" here. You know, because of the errant racism in that law...

I think more states should boycott Arizona until that law is done away with.

whyismynametom
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I think more states should boycott Arizona until that law is done away with.

Why the law is in no way racist, and all those guys who say it is have been in Cort and have admitted that they haven't even read the bill.
The bill simply states that, "if you are arrested, cops are required to ask you for your papers" where in that did it say anything about race?
thepossum
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The law also states that police can question you under "reasonable suspicion", which will no doubt cause racial profiling against Hispanics. I myself am a Hispanic, and I am revolted at the very idea of this law. But whatever.

Maverick5762
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I just saw a replay of The Daily Show from last night. They did a good peice on this law. Really funny. Showed the flaws of finding "reasonable suspicion" that someone is here illegally.

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"What the white house needs is adult supervision" Oboma

Don't like him all that much, but it is a true quote... It is kind of childish "You made a law we don't like, so we are going to strike back!"

Arizona: "Ow, that heart, I will get you back for that..."

It makes me wonder what will happen next.

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Freakenstein
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Krizaz
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You really don't know how to get a link right.

Seriously.

And the link is just the actual bill itself.

Freakenstein
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You really don't know how to get a link right.


Whoops. Mine had double https lol

The law also states that police can question you under "reasonable suspicion"


Well reasonable suspicion can be from anything really. Reason to believe that you are committing a certain act against the law. In this, how does one get reason to believe that one is an illegal alien? It's the same way as any other suspicious acts. Someone tells law enforcement, "hey, I know this guy that is secretly a drug dealer, you may want to search him". However, how does one know that someone is an illegal alien? Where's the proof? It's illegal for an officer to search someone's belongings or papers without reason to believe they are an illegal alien, unless they have a search warrant.

SO... how?
thepossum
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Well, think about it. They're in Arizona, right next to the Mexican border. So basically, they're looking for anyone who's Mexican and doesn't speak perfect English and looks ghetto.

Freakenstein
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I could also look in Indiana for a black guy who's ghetto and assume he does a form of drugs. You need factual evidence to prove that he/she/it is an illegal alien. If he/she/it does not have a certificate of citizenship, he/she/it is an illegal alien. How long does someone have to be living in the U.S. before they can apply for citizenship? That could happen too. Maybe they were immigrating here and just have to live in the U.S. for a long period of time before applying.

thepossum
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I could also look in Indiana for a black guy who's ghetto and assume he does a form of drugs. You need factual evidence to prove that he/she/it is an illegal alien. If he/she/it does not have a certificate of citizenship, he/she/it is an illegal alien. How long does someone have to be living in the U.S. before they can apply for citizenship? That could happen too. Maybe they were immigrating here and just have to live in the U.S. for a long period of time before applying.


Unfortunately, what you said about the black man actually happens a lot. Racial profiling is fairly common. And as to what you said about people who were waiting for citizenship, they still have papers saying they could live here.
thepossum
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The main reason I'm starting to lean towards supporting the bill is the drug cartels, though. We're letting cartels with private armies come in and make money off our border system - I'm fine with illegal immigrants as long as they apply for citizenship, but the cartels need to be stopped, and if racial profiling will stop so many people being killed, then I'm all for it.


Many people have tried to stop the Cartel. All have failed. The Cartel will definitely not be stopped by one law in Arizona. There are ways to get around said law. The Cartel are highly organized and have no qualms about "shutting people up" if those people are a danger to them.
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Many people have tried to stop the Cartel. All have failed. The Cartel will definitely not be stopped by one law in Arizona. There are ways to get around said law. The Cartel are highly organized and have no qualms about "shutting people up" if those people are a danger to them.


Any sort of mitigation - like this bill - is a step in the right direction. As powerful as they are, the cartels are weaker than the government of the USA, and we have enough power to limit their activity. The bill will make it easier for police officers to do this. I don't see how that could possibly be negative.
thepossum
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Seems like an awful lot of racial profiling for just a little bit of mitigation...

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