The so called "Evil" antagonist of the Bible. The question comes to this: Why is he the evil one? He killed a mere ten people in the Bible, possibly more to around fifty at most, while God, the supposed good one, killed billions. The only "negative" thing he did was rebel against god, but it was a just rebel. Who would want to live under that tyrant?
So the question comes down to: Why do Christians think Satan is evil?
Hmm... Well, according to, I would say, most Christians, rebelling against God would be more than enough to label him evil.
I also don't like the name he was given, it's quite unnerving to have one named 'Lucifer' as an evil character when his name means 'Light bringer' in Latin, and light can be interpreted not only as knowledge, but also good.
Hmm... I seem to recall a few lines in the old Testament where he split the earth open and threw quite a few Israelites inside because they wanted to think for themselves, oh... and the flood... Definitely the flood.
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. (Isaiah 45:7, KJV)
That is quite disturbing, why would any deity knowingly and willingly create evil?
Oh... and thanks for ruining the joke Nurv, I'm making it anyways though.
Yea, splitting the earth seems to be a little... intense. It's true, God himself has killed many according to Christians. The Old Testament would scare anyone into believing in Christianity during the olden days.
It's true, Satan is believed to be evil for a dumb reason. But in Christianity Satan is believed to be evil because he was the first one to have sinned. And encourages others to do so.
While we are here - I'd like to bring up the 'roblem of Evil'.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
God does not kill people, people kill people, end of story, sorry bud. There's a thing God gave us in Genesis...free will? Yeah that's right, God didn't make us perfect because he gave us free will.
According to the Bible, god personally killed many with floods, earth quakes, great balls of fire, bears...
Also, Satan, his own archangel, basically his right hand man tried to overthrow the creator of the universe. If you were the creator of the universe and had a right hand man, would you just let a mutiny go unanswered? Probably not.
If said creator was all loving as he claims to be, then he would have a lesser punishment than eternal torture for doing what he felt was right.
For example, the Old Testament was the part of the Bible when smite and fire rained down upon cities. In the New Testament Jesus kicked it with people in Israel and saved everyone. In my opinion, because God knew that his followers were saved because of his one and only son, he didn't feel the need to do weird stuff and smite people for weird things.
Because then there would be no choice as to which someone would pick; God or Satan, Good or Evil.
There was apparently free will before Satan, so this would have been an unnecessary step. And why would it have to be torture? Why not a semi-uncomfortable jail cell?
Elaborate please.
If after Jesus came to earth there was no reason for god to kill anymore, then why is rapture in the Bible?(Basically Jesus comes down with a sword in his mouth and tattoo on either his thighs or testicles and kills a few trillion people.)
If you didn't notice, those people were really...I don't know the word but gross and didn't follow God's command? I guess he felt that a new civilization should be started in which he would make a few changes. And don't go off on me saying God is perfect how could he have made mistakes. To be honest I don't know, that's just the way things went in the bible.
So your saying they were so evil, every man, woman, child, donkey, horse, tree, that they all had to be killed and that there was no other way for an omnipotent being to help them?
If you didn't notice, those people were really...I don't know the word but gross and didn't follow God's command?
Interesting, how does that fit into the concept of God being all for free will? There are also examples of people being killed by God not for disobeying his commands but for others doing so. For instance all the first borns being killed because the pharaoh wouldn't release God's people. Also regardless of the reason according to the Bible, these are deaths that are a direct result of God. So your argument that God doesn't kill people is in error since reason is not a factor.
Interesting, how does that fit into the concept of God being all for free will?
Well, nothing really fits into the concept of God giving people free will if he says that if you CHOOSE not to worship him you're going to hell... It may be a choice, but weighted choices such as that do not constitute free will.
I would want to go the hell anyways, popular notions of heaven bore me.
I mean if the bible said. chairs are evil and sitting = worshiping satan. then you would see Christians standing all the time
That wouldn't be in the Bible. Bad logic.
Hmm... I seem to recall a few lines in the old Testament where he split the earth open and threw quite a few Israelites inside because they wanted to think for themselves, oh... and the flood... Definitely the flood.
Those were because the people were so evil that God removed them from the world; I'm talking the most evil the world had ever experienced.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
He is able and willing, yet tests us for our worthiness. Wether you agree with that or not, you know that's what's taught to Christians. Think Avorne, you're better than that.
