The so called "Evil" antagonist of the Bible. The question comes to this: Why is he the evil one? He killed a mere ten people in the Bible, possibly more to around fifty at most, while God, the supposed good one, killed billions. The only "negative" thing he did was rebel against god, but it was a just rebel. Who would want to live under that tyrant?
So the question comes down to: Why do Christians think Satan is evil?
The so called "Evil" antagonist of the Bible. The question comes to this: Why is he the evil one? He killed a mere ten people in the Bible, possibly more to around fifty at most, while God, the supposed good one, killed billions. The only "negative" thing he did was rebel against god, but it was a just rebel. Who would want to live under that tyrant? So the question comes down to: Why do Christians think Satan is evil?
Satan realized that the need for killing was useless, only to cause them to sin would be required. Which is why everyone knows the devil as a manipulative, devious, liar. He's just the force that tempts you to do evil so that you will go against God. Also who ever said anything about billions of people. For all we know, there could've been 20 people alive. And moses and his family made a quarter of the population. Anyways it has been proven that there was a flood, and the actual written dementions on the boat (in the bible written before sturdy boats were actually made) was sturdy enough to actually withstand these waters without tipping. (I think it was on mythbusters that they proved it). Either way, you cant make false sayings like saying killing billions of people, when actually no one know the correct amount of people alive during that era. Ps... Most of the stories your talking about are fictatious and are only to show that good prevails...
Satan realized that the need for killing was useless, only to cause them to sin would be required. Which is why everyone knows the devil as a manipulative, devious, liar. He's just the force that tempts you to do evil so that you will go against God. Also who ever said anything about billions of people. For all we know, there could've been 20 people alive. And moses and his family made a quarter of the population. Anyways it has been proven that there was a flood, and the actual written dementions on the boat (in the bible written before sturdy boats were actually made) was sturdy enough to actually withstand these waters without tipping. (I think it was on mythbusters that they proved it). Either way, you cant make false sayings like saying killing billions of people, when actually no one know the correct amount of people alive during that era.
Wow. Sturdy boats were actually made. Now you just have to make one the size of the Atlantic ocean and sturdy enough to survive the high altitudes without food or water with only a few human to work it. He had hundreds of other killings, many of witch are numbered.
You mean like where it contradicts itself? Like where God led David to census, yet later it attributes the actions to 'ha-satan'(a term used to describe men as well as angels throughout the bible and the torah) as evidenced in 2 Samuel and 1 Chronicles? Or in 1 Kings, Numbers, Psalms, and Ecclesiastes?
The term "Satan" is derived from the Hebrew 'ha-satan' which literally means 'adversary' and is used in that context throughout both the bible and the torah. And while the Judeo-Christian faith would have you believe that "Satan" or the "Devil" controls evil, both the bible and torah show clear cut cases of God having both the power and authority to both cause and eliminate evil, thus negating the argument that "Satan" or the "Devil" is actually the angel of evil.
Wow. I guess you aren't a parent. For those of you who have an idea of a 'loving God damning us to hell for being insolent' I highly recommend you watch this and do so with an open mind. Religion tends to force people to close their eyes in light of opposing view points. I simply ask that you keep an open mind, and be willing to think critically. After all, God gave you the ability to do so, right?
Satan is evil because he tried to overthrow god. He betrayed us Christians as an angel. That's why we call him a fallen angel. He is our road to you-know-where. He is basically sin's true form. All Christians will battle alongside our savior, Jesus, to fight Satan's army of humans. he is what tempts us to sin.
One more thing I've never understood, if he didn't have to, why would he? If he wanted to judge humans and that kind of stuff; being omniscient, shouldn't he have known what would happen, and be satisfied with that knowledge?
Satan is evil because he tried to overthrow god. He betrayed us Christians as an angel. That's why we call him a fallen angel. He is our road to you-know-where. He is basically sin's true form. All Christians will battle alongside our savior, Jesus, to fight Satan's army of humans. he is what tempts us to sin.
And this is what makes religion so dark and undesirable. You speak of wars and battles as if such things had no consequences but the ones you desire. Have you been in a battle? Seen the men around you fall dead? No, you haven't - and let me tell you, war ain't what its cracked up to be. Because the poor bugger you're burying your sword into more than likely isn't some demonic spawn of Satan but some bloke with a wife and kids. It's made all the worse in religion because the only thing he is guilty of is not believing the things that you do. And you have the nerve to speak like that?
God judges people, he doesn't randomly murder them.
So it's premeditated murder?
God created us, and guess how we repay him? We directly disobey him and bring sin into the world
"1. The woman believes that the violence was her fault."
God didn't have to create us in the first place, and for us to bring judgement on ourselves like that is worthy of the death of all of us
"2. The woman has an inability to place the responsibility for the violence elsewhere."
Battered Wife: "No, he's right. I deserved it."
especially since God warned us in the beginning.
Wife Beater: "B&*^! If you don't get your @$$ over here right now I'm going to beat the $%&^ out of you."
When God brought the flood, it's because his own people were rebelling and sinning in front of him, and they couldn't care less.Again with the image of the father, imagine that after one of your own kids tries to assassinate you, the rest all wreak havoc around the house despite your desperate efforts to control them. They start burning your house, destroying your beautiful china, and even attacking your own authority, like you are doing right now by creating this thread.
Symptom 1 and 2.
Also known as "Drowning Your Children When They Don't Behave".
We don't even deserve to live at all
Why battered wives stay with there abuser. "lost self-esteem" BW: "I don't deserve any better"
Also touches on symtom #2.
However, despite what may seem like loathing for us, God does love us, and wants us to follow Jesus. He wants us to learn to be loving like Him, and kind like Him, and follow all of his good traits.
God: Love me, OR I'LL KILL YOUR B%^%$ @$$!
He may have punished those that hated Him in the Old Testament, but only a loving father disciplines his child.
Yeah, only a truly all loving father kills his kids for misbehaving.
I hope that clears up the issue of God's "murders," and I hope you understand him better now, Kirby.
God still seems like a genocidal blood thirty tyrant.
lol MGW, nice to see you've seen "Is religion like battered women syndrome"
It's a very thought provoking video for those of you who haven't seen it. I suggest you watch it. And have an open mind and be prepared for some critical thinking afterward, if you are capable of it.
lol MGW, nice to see you've seen "Is religion like battered women syndrome"
There's more then just that one out there, and I've been using this argument for a while in this thread. Been thinking of maybe expanding out and turning it into it's own topic.
Also I wasn't quoting from the video I was quoting from a site listing the symptoms of battered wife syndrome.
Wow. Sturdy boats were actually made. Now you just have to make one the size of the Atlantic ocean and sturdy enough to survive the high altitudes without food or water with only a few human to work it. He had hundreds of other killings, many of witch are numbered.
Yet i notice most of the bigger numerical amounts were estimated... More like guessed, since there is no way of actually being able to predict the amount, or even give a so called estimate. Not to mention the grand total even with all these possibly outrageous amounts still total 25 million.. Not even close to a billion. As i've done before, you can easily take one thing and exceed it to make it deem outrageous and extremely biased...
and @mage. I actually found the arguement with the abused wife quite interesting. I mean much of it can be applied with the fear of God, and its actually quite interesting to see such a point put in place.
Yet i notice most of the bigger numerical amounts were estimated... More like guessed, since there is no way of actually being able to predict the amount, or even give a so called estimate. Not to mention the grand total even with all these possibly outrageous amounts still total 25 million.. Not even close to a billion. As i've done before, you can easily take one thing and exceed it to make it deem outrageous and extremely biased...
Do I have to teach you what a "hyperbole" is?
The account has a number for the words "Great killing" for slaughtered villages, but just not for the big plagues and such that do not have numbers. Those have to be estimated.
