What do you think about this? I feel that it should not be built at ground zero because I find that extremely disrespectful to the families and victims of that infamous day.
Thats the thing. Americans are far too sensitive about attacks on their home soil. They should dedicate an entire floor of the freedom tower to new york muslims to show solidarity. Their reaction to a mosque being built far away on the top floor of a different building shows that the terrorists have won. Simple as that. As soon as you start stopping mosques being built you become more like the enemy you despise
Exactly.
It is the aim of terrorists to spread fear, distrust and misgivings. In this case, the target was toward Muslims. By creating a rift between America and the Muslim community, it makes it easier for the Islamic extremists to spread. Considering the amount of opposition and ignorance toward this topic, it seems as if the terrorists have already won.
Why don't you guys do an exchange program? The Muslims get to build their Mosque (Which could help integration) at Ground Zero. And then the Americans can build a Church on a site which has deep meaning to Muslims? That would make everyone more even and promote integration on both sides.
The thing is, there already is tons of integration in the middle east, despite what the right wing media would have you believe. In Iran alone, the supposed enemy of the west there are 600 churches.
Well there are plenty of churches side by side with mosques in jerusalem. Mecca, the holy site of islam isnt at all relevant to christianity, so it would be hard to justify pitching up and building a church there.
Well there are plenty of churches side by side with mosques in jerusalem. Mecca, the holy site of islam isnt at all relevant to christianity, so it would be hard to justify pitching up and building a church there.
Along that line of thinking - Ground Zero has no relevance to the Islamic faith, it would be hard to justify building a Mosque there.
Mecca and New york are big enough cities so that at least one church/mosque is needed in each.
Think about it this way. Say you remember seeing the planes crash and you were scared out of you mind. Then, after you heard that it was Muslim Terrorists, you have to walk past a Mosque everyday day to go to work. That would mess people up. I am shocked that you would think that it is ok. I consider it a insult to the familys that lost loved ones it the tragic day.
Oh please, bombings happened in London too and there's a mosque on every corner in some neighbourhoods. Not to mention the ira bombing campaigns of the 70s/80s. Do you see Britons fleeing in terror every time they walk past an irish bar? If thats really the case you americans really are far too sensitive. Whats insulting is the american reaction to try and stop a mosque being built. The victims died for a group that hates freedom of religion, and you want to go the same way as them. Thats whats insulting.
In Iran alone, the supposed enemy of the west there are 600 churches.
There are six hundred churches within 50 miles of where I live. And you forgot about the 'getting killed by closed minded Muslims' part.
It's not the fact that they are building a mosque, woody. Not at all. There are a couple dozen mosques in New York City, and another is fine. There are mosques everywhere, and around 2 million Muslims. Hell, I know of one not five miles from where I live, and I know a couple people who go to it.
It's not the mosque, it's the place, the timing, and the meaning. It is due to open, not a quarter miles from ground zero, on September 11th, 2011. If you don't see the purposeful irony, you might be nearly as closed minded as most Americans.
Building a mosque is fine, but as I illustrated earlier in the thread, they had an entire city, and 364 other days for which to open it. But they pick that one spot, on that one day, ten years exactly afterwards. I don't know about you, but that's pretty screwed up.
I don't think your commonwealth would be too happy if Americans blew up the Queen's palace, then build a memorial to those we lost 5 blocks away.
I haven't posted here in a while but I noticed a Christian church is built even closer to ground zero than the Muslim community center planned. Wouldn't it be discriminatory to allow the church and not allow the community center?
There are six hundred churches within 50 miles of where I live.
Thats probably because you live in america. If you cant see that having 600 churches in iran is significant i think ill have trouble communicating with you.
It is due to open, not a quarter miles from ground zero, on September 11th, 2011. If you don't see the purposeful irony, you might be nearly as closed minded as most Americans.
If you genuinely think these muslims are doing this to disrespect the dead i think you misunderstand the muslim faith.
I don't think your commonwealth would be too happy if Americans blew up the Queen's palace, then build a memorial to those we lost 5 blocks away.
Lol. Look at the 7/7 bombings and the over muslim publicity after it and you would know how wrong you are. If theres one thing the brits are good at, its not overreacting.
Firstly, Americans are notoriously over sensitive.
Secondly, the people who determined where this mosque would be built and when it would open either didn't bother to take other people's opinions into account, or they simply don't care.
I tend to think that it is a simple case of a misunderstanding or incorrect estimate of the reactions of this event. However what no one here has pointed out is that there were in fact people of the Muslim faith inside those towers, and who died as a result of these attacks. While I think that the timing seems a bit insensitive, I can also see that perhaps it is meant to honor those muslims who were murdered, and by members of their own faith as well.
Oh, and I forgot to post a link to some information about the Muslims who died, and who's families I'm sure will be glad to worship so near to their place of death.
My whole philosophy is this: If we are going to live in a world with religion it must be completely secular, and fully tolerant, otherwise it needs to be tossed aside.
