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mdv96
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What do you think about this? I feel that it should not be built at ground zero because I find that extremely disrespectful to the families and victims of that infamous day.

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Ricador
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Hurrah for conservative talk show hosts twisting information so to send the views of the masses askew.


I am Conservative and I approve this message. Partially. I think that a lot of them skew, but there are some good ones. I think generalizing like that is as bad as "twisting information". Also, there are just as many Liberal hosts that skew information. Don't one-side this.

Any who, as for the Mosque:

I personally think that even though it's a couple blocks away, it's a bit to provocative, but hell, it's their right.
MageGrayWolf
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Not sure how much validity there is to it but I thought it was still worth mentioning.

GAY BAR Next to Ground Zero Mosque!!!

T3hLemming
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Freedom of religion will reign supreme here, potentially disrespectful or not. And I'm fairly certain that it isn't disrespectful, it's just the neighborhood. There already is a mosque about two blocks from where they're putting this one, and it's been there for a hell of a lot longer. Haven't heard any complaints about it's presence. This is just a bunch of overblown disrespectful nonsense on the part of those who object to it. This sort of generalized intolerance is what makes me angry about the state of things. We are not a Christian nation, despite what radical conservatives would have us believe. We are a multicultural nation, and we need to learn to accept and embrace that not only do other religions exist, but those other religions aren't mostly populated with people who hate the country, or who want to bomb our landmarks. Opinions like that are just going to destroy the US, one way or another.

tomertheking
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We are a multicultural nation,


"in god (cristian god) we trust"
The pledge of allegiance has the cristian god mentioned in it.
The founding fathers are featured everywhere, even in money.

Lets say that the culture of the US has not changed since the declaration of independence.
MageGrayWolf
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"in god (cristian god) we trust"
The pledge of allegiance has the cristian god mentioned in it.


Both of which weren't added until the 1950s. More specifically 1954 and 1956.
PurpleSquishy
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Can't believe it is even an issue, building a trophy to the devastation "NO WAY"!

MRWalker82
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"in god (cristian god) we trust"


Actually there is not one place which states which particular God is being referred to.

The pledge of allegiance has the cristian god mentioned in it.


Again, it just says "God". There are literally thousands of faiths which profess a belief in God. Christians are followers of Christ. Show me where Christ or Jesus appear in the pledge of allegiance, the money, or anywhere else. You are inferring that it is the Christian deity, it is not expressed as such.

The founding fathers are featured everywhere, even in money.


Yes they are, and actually the founding fathers you see represented were deists to the man. Not a single one professed a belief in Christianity.
Avorne
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And besides all that - whatever happened to the 'freedom of speech/expression/belief' stuff?

aknerd
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how me where Christ or Jesus appear in the pledge of allegiance, the money, or anywhere else.


You know that pyramid with the random eye on the one dollar bill? Jesus is standing behind it.

deists to the man


I am always shocked by the fact that so many Americans don't know this.

Saying we shouldn't allow a mosque at Ground Zero is like saying we shouldn't allow Japanese restaurants in Hawaii. Or a British Embassy near the white house (because they burned it down, you know).

Actually, wait. It's not like that at all. Because we were never at war with Islam as a whole, just certain people who happen to be Muslim.

So how can we be so friendly with the British, who burned down our capital building AND waged two wars against us (on our own soil), and yet still have this enmity towards all of Islam, of which only a small portion have ever done us harm?
locoace3
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i don't care if they build a mosque there it makes me mad that people think that just because there's a temple of Muslim religion that they automatically connect it to terrorism

Avorne
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Pfft, what do you mean your soil? You still owe us you damn yanks and we feel you owe us a massive backlog of rent - cough it up or there will be WAR! And Jesus is behind the pyramid - getting it on with the Prophet Muhammad.

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Why shouldn't they build a Mosque? I don't think it's insensitive at all. What i do find insensitive is the idea that Islam represents the f*cks that destroyed the towers. The easiest way to get rid of hate and misunderstanding is to shove the issue right in people's faces and make them deal with it. Therefore, i applaud the idea of building a mosque near ground zero.

MageGrayWolf
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Why shouldn't they build a Mosque? I don't think it's insensitive at all. What i do find insensitive is the idea that Islam represents the f*cks that destroyed the towers. The easiest way to get rid of hate and misunderstanding is to shove the issue right in people's faces and make them deal with it. Therefore, i applaud the idea of building a mosque near ground zero.


Have to say that's an interesting way of looking at it.
Hypermnestra
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What do you think about this? I feel that it should not be built at ground zero because I find that extremely disrespectful to the families and victims of that infamous day.

So...you watch Fox, eh?
It's not like the Muslims who are going to the mosque are the ones who caused 9/11. It's kind of racist, actually. I mean, it's like saying you can't build a church near where there was a KKK lynching. It wasn't you, but the folks are just kind of sensitive about it so they automatically stereotype you as a racist Christian, which you aren't. It's the same principle with Muslims. It's just a religion, but the only Muslims we hear about are the extremist fanatics(it's like how atheists are always using the Westboro Baptist Church against Christians. Sure, they're bad, but that doesn't mean all Christians are homophobes. It's just that they're the ones we hear about, so we assume that every Christian is like that. So, like, same thing with Muslims.
Also; isn't there a huge monument being built on Ground Zero, and the mosque is like, a few blocks away?
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What?! I thought that the mosque/Muslim religion center was on a floor of the Ground Zero monument!

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