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CrimsonRose
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This topic is based upon your personal opinion on whether abortion is wrong or right. I personally believe that it is wrong, and have many reasons for it. You may challenge me if you wish, but please make sense!

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MageGrayWolf
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Just a couple videos to think about.

What it was like when abortion was illegal.
A World Without Abortion

Are you sure you are speaking of a fetus and not an embryo?


I wonder this point for those totally against abortion, is fetus even that's being thought of?
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LegendaryThunder
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If Someone has sex and gets pregnant and has an abortion(not endangering the mothers life)then they are obviously not mature or responsible enough to have sex and so the child shouldnt be aborted just to show the possible consequences of such actions.

Moegreche
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If Someone has sex and gets pregnant and has an abortion(not endangering the mothers life)then they are obviously not mature or responsible enough to have sex and so the child shouldnt be aborted just to show the possible consequences of such actions.


So you're suggesting the mother be forced to keep the child in order to teach her a lesson? And what lesson would that be - that having sex can lead to pregnancy? This is what I'm gathering from you saying "... to show the possible consequences of such actions," but certainly this consequence is something the mother already knew or realized.
It's like smoking. People smoke even though it can cause lung disease. But it's not like every time you smoke you develop some sort of health problem. People are complacent and it's fairly common to just avoid thinking of the consequences of a particular action.
But even if you don't like that argument, you must still consider the effects of your thinking in action. Say a woman gets pregnant and is forced to have the baby. What kind of quality of life can we expect for the child to be given from a mother who didn't want the child in the first place?
And many would argue that any unwanted pregnancy is a serious threat to the health of the mother. If abortions were outlawed, as Mage's first video suggests, we would expect an increased rate of death in these mothers. Those who want to have illegal abortions but succumb to disease or those mothers who simply take their own lives rather than have to deal with the weight of an unwanted child.
How is a mother who wants to kill herself rather than have a baby any more morally culpable than a woman who's pregnancy itself would kill her?
locoace3
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all it is doing is destroying someones chance to live


and if their life would suck like if they would have abusive parents and couldn't eat every day cause their poor? that's just abuse
EnterOrion
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all it is doing is destroying someones chance to live


If they were never to exist in the first place, your 'god' wouldn't have any destiny set for them.

They are alive, but they are not human life. They have no consciousness, they have no feelings, they have no senses. They are nothing. Their loss is about as meaningful as the loss of my favorite shirt. Sure, it sucks, will it matter in a week? No.

Secondly, for those all in favor of making it illegal, have you ever heard of separation of church and state?
nevetsthereaper
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thats really not the issue here enterorion, although you are correct. the main thing is that people are killed everyday, not just people, adults, who have conciousness, even people whos lives are good. why then is it so wrong to abort a fetus, who doesn't even understand the magnitude of life. especially in todays world. besides all your points are moot. don't you know the world will end in 2 years anyway.

EnterOrion
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thats really not the issue here enterorion, although you are correct. the main thing is that people are killed everyday, not just people, adults, who have conciousness, even people whos lives are good. why then is it so wrong to abort a fetus, who doesn't even understand the magnitude of life. especially in todays world. besides all your points are moot. don't you know the world will end in 2 years anyway.


Firstly: WTF?

Secondly: That has nothing to do with anything I said.

Thirdly: I addressed all three issues.
nevetsthereaper
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you said it has nothing to do with waht you said, yet you addressed all three issues? how does that work?

EnterOrion
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you said it has nothing to do with waht you said, yet you addressed all three issues? how does that work?


What you said had nothing to do with what I said.
nevetsthereaper
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then how did we address the same issues?

EnterOrion
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then how did we address the same issues?


...

I never said that.
halogunner
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you are confusing me

nevetsthereaper
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Firstly: WTF?
Secondly: That has nothing to do with anything I said.
Thirdly: I addressed all three issues


you didn't say that??
halogunner
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stop getting off topic and arguing about nothing your just confusing eachother

EnterOrion
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you didn't say that??


No.

Read it again.
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