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CrimsonRose
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This topic is based upon your personal opinion on whether abortion is wrong or right. I personally believe that it is wrong, and have many reasons for it. You may challenge me if you wish, but please make sense!

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PureTrouble
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Regardless of money or faith in god, an abortion is taking away a human's chance to experince life with all of its happiness and misery.


True.

But Abortion is also a choice, and life is made up of choices. And in the end, it all comes down to if the person who made the choice thinks it was wrong or right.
Avorne
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And yet - the foetus/embryo isn't a human yet. It would never know about those things and so you can't say it's taking away all that many chances.

PureTrouble
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And yet - the foetus/embryo isn't a human yet. It would never know about those things and so you can't say it's taking away all that many chances.


Key word: yet.

You're conceded enough to say it isn't a life. I mean a seed isn't a life either, but it sure does make it.
314d1
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Sperm= Potential human

Egg= Potential human

Fetus= Potential human

None have a brain enough to be able to think, feel pain, or anything that will make them a person... If it is taking away potential life that is wrong, then warring condoms is also wrong or even just not having sex.

PureTrouble
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then warring condoms is also wrong or even just not having sex.

No. The "murder" of the fetus through abortion is, not the act that leads to it.
locoace3
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The Fetus is human Avorne. Its sad to think people would think its a &quototential human". We're all potential humans! If the fetus is human, and someone else is killing it, it is therefore-MURDER


in war it's not considered murder may-be were at war with the fetus?

and what proof do you have that the fetus is a living being that feels and everything without proof your just having another tantrum
crazyrussian97
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in war it's not considered murder may-be were at war with the fetus?

That's subjective. If war was perfectly justified and not simply the politicians using men like pawns, then it would be righteous killing. But there are ulterior motives to every war and everyone knows it. Also, everyone at least considers the opposing side murderers, right? How else would we justify their deaths.
rafterman
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My line is drawn when a baby is conceived. Sperm isnt a baby yet.

My line isn't drawn in what ever position convienantly supports your views.

anyone who is murdered doesn�t have a soul

Souls are indeed nonexistent.

Actually, life does begin at conception, sorry to burst your bubble

The kind of life a being has at conception is non-sentient, the same life as sperm.

The Fetus is human Avorne.

Cancerous cells are human

We're all potential humans!

We are sentient human life.

If the fetus is human, and someone else is killing it, it is therefore-MURDER

Murder does not mean what you think it does.

That's subjective.

So is abortion.
crazyrussian97
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That's subjective.
So is abortion

Shouldn't be. Its wrong.

If the fetus is human, and someone else is killing it, it is therefore-MURDER
Murder does not mean what you think it does.

Then define murder.
rafterman
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Shouldn't be. Its wrong

You're making it subjective by voicing your opinions and not solely basing everything on fact.

Then define murder.

Illegal killing, which has been said many, many times already.
PureTrouble
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Shouldn't be. Its wrong.


It should always be a choice, although wrong. It's a sticky situation, there are too many "mistakes" for lack of a better term, and people who won't be able to provide, and the last thing anyone wants is another orphan child... a life like that is rough. So choice, I believe, although it's not the best should remain.
crazyrussian97
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Illegal killing, which has been said many, many times already.

Wheter its illegal or not is the topic of this debate.
You're making it subjective by voicing your opinions and not solely basing everything on fact.

Its impossible to base everything on fact, else there would be no arguement.
crazyrussian97
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It should always be a choice, although wrong. It's a sticky situation, there are too many "mistakes" for lack of a better term, and people who won't be able to provide, and the last thing anyone wants is another orphan child... a life like that is rough. So choice, I believe, although it's not the best should remain

Well spoken. Kind of smudges the line between pro-life and pro-choice, doesn't it?
PureTrouble
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Well spoken.


I try. I'm not one to spike arguments, but to get a point across.


Kind of smudges the line between pro-life and pro-choice, doesn't it?


Kind of scary, but yes.
rafterman
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Wheter its illegal or not is the topic of this debate.

Actually, isn't the entire debate about whether or not abortion should be legal(or at least its often mentioned).

Its impossible to base everything on fact, else there would be no arguement.

I know that, but I don't complain about it being subjective.
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