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holt24
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This is not about whether or not he was the son of God but whether he actually existed.Most atheists agree that he did live but there are some who don't so what are you're thoughts?

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314d1
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You foul heathen! Misplacing everything that points to Bobb the giant unicorn on your pathetic excuse for a "god".

Yeah you should be scared. Our existence here on earth should be proof enough.Bobb created the Heaven and the Earth. You waking up every morning is only by the grace of Bobb. What proof do you have that he doesn't exist?

MRWalker82
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Yes there was a man named Jesus who lived at the time that the stories purport him to exist and he was crucified by the Romans. In fact records show multiple people named Jesus, having lived or come from the area of Galilee, having been crucified. Jesus was a very common name at the time, and is still a relatively common name.

Was there one particular Jesus who performed miracles, was born of a virgin, and was sent to save mankind from the sin of a talking snake convincing a woman made from a rib and some dirt to eat a forbidden apple? I would doubt that quite strongly.

MageGrayWolf
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Here's an interesting video on the subject of Jesus.
An Atheist Reads the Bible - 13 - I Am Legend

Dref14
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Actually MR.walker is pretty much right. the scientificly proved (the) Jesus was a living man. Its the miracles they cant prove scientiflically

Muse2223
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Actually MR.walker is pretty much right. the scientificly proved (the) Jesus was a living man. Its the miracles they cant prove scientiflically


I'd love to see your sources stating that THE Jesus was real
MageGrayWolf
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Here's my old thread on this very topic. You guys might want to dig through it for sources.

Was Jesus Real

MRWalker82
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Actually MR.walker is pretty much right. the scientificly proved (the) Jesus was a living man. Its the miracles they cant prove scientiflically


You seem to misunderstand my post. I never once claimed that the same man named Jesus of Nazareth and whom inspired much of the New Testament existed. What I pointed out is that there many men named Jesus at that time, and many from the area this individual was said to be from, and even some who died in the same manner as this man.

All this proves, if anything, is that any number of men could have fit this description so to say for certain that this one particular individual existed and citing descriptions to prove that which match multiple individuals is fallacious and asinine.
MageGrayWolf
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You seem to misunderstand my post. I never once claimed that the same man named Jesus of Nazareth and whom inspired much of the New Testament existed. What I pointed out is that there many men named Jesus at that time, and many from the area this individual was said to be from, and even some who died in the same manner as this man.


In other words it would be like saying John Smith from New York was a great man and died tragically.
Efan
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of course he was real. The ancient romans romans had a lot of recorded history. It's a different story to say that his God was.

HahiHa
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Question, from where does the name Jesus really come? Because I have read about a theory that it could have been influenced by celtic mythology..
Maybe you know the Horned One, or Cernunnos. He is just the 'winter form' of an entity, the summer form being a so-called Esus.
Now this theory is interesting since there's more to it. Cernunnos dwells in Sidhe's, hills beneath them the souls of the dead rejuvenate before ressucitating in the living world. Now he's quite a good guy. But the parallels are hard to dispute: christians thought that their god is in the sky, and what lies beneath the earth is bad for them. So Cernunnos was for them a bad, horned guy in an underworld full of the souls of the dead. Personally I'm quite inclined to think this isn't just coincidence.

ImaFiringMyLazar
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Question, from where does the name Jesus really come?


Jesus was born with the name Jesus. And yes he's real.
HahiHa
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I was more thinking of the etymology and the origin of the name, not of the person.

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Question, from where does the name Jesus really come?


it said in the bible that god told Mary and Joseph to name him Jesus. so, god probably made it up. Knowing god though, maybe it has a meaning. How god got the name I'm not entirely sure.
MRWalker82
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Question, from where does the name Jesus really come?


Actually it's originally from the hebrew Yeshua, and was a very common name at the time that Jesus Christ was purported to have lived. From Yeshua it was translated into latin, as Iesus, and then later anglicised as Iesu and eventually Jesus.
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The source of the name Jesus is probably the Hebrew name Yeshua. Which means Ye (God) + Shua (salvation), hence God is salvation.

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