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The topic says it all.

Why do governments feel the need to make drugs illegal? If anything, it causes a lot more problems than there were before. If they were legalized, there would not be nearly as many violent actions over getting them since the prices would not be nearly as high. There would not been as many people over doing it with drugs, since it would eventually just become a normal thing in day-to-day life.

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nonconformist
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weed is a depressant. when you smoke it your endorphines (happy hormones) get a bit overused and afterwords you experience some sort of depression due to not having as many endorphines as you normally do.
wow this guy really understand marijuana and its effects *sarcasm*.... firstly if u had a remote clue as wat weed rlly does than u would slap urself for being so stupid. ur sources are wack, and u have no idea wat u r talking about.

Go smoke some weed, then u'll understand...well i hope at least cuz there aint much brain power in yea is ther? I smoked constantly for 3 months to get rid of depression... guess wat? it worked... livin proof of this endorphine crap being massive BS. Ive stoped last march and i still feel fine...sry guy but unless uve tried weed ur sources and logic aint worth much... u have no idea wat it does to u at all

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Because of my jerk-politician attitude I have been misunderstood.

After making my researches I have to say about cannabis:
Smoking tobacco is more toxic than inhaling cannabis.
A 1988 ruling from the United States Department of Justice concluded that "In practical terms, marijuana cannot induce a lethal response as a result of drug-related toxicity."
Some effects may include an altered state of consciousness, euphoria, feelings of well-being, relaxation or stress reduction, increased appreciation of humor, music or art, joviality, metacognition and introspection, enhanced recollection (episodic memory), increased sensuality, increased awareness of sensation, increased libido, creative or philosophical thinking, disruption of linear memory, paranoia, agitation or anxiety, and increased awareness of patterns and colour. Weed can make you more artistic for this reason is widely used by many artists.
Some of the short-term physical effects of cannabis use include increased heart rate, xerostomia (cottonmouth), reddening of the eyes (congestion of the conjunctival blood vessels), a reduction in intra-ocular pressure, muscle relaxation and a sensation of cold or hot hands and feet.
The areas of the brain where cannabinoid receptors are most prevalently located are consistent with the behavioral effects produced by cannabinoids. Brain regions in which cannabinoid receptors are very abundant are the basal ganglia, associated with movement control; the cerebellum, associated with body movement coordination; the hippocampus, associated with learning, memory, and stress control; the cerebral cortex, associated with higher cognitive functions; and the nucleus accumbens, regarded as the reward center of the brain. Other regions where cannabinoid receptors are moderately concentrated are the hypothalamus, which regulates homeostatic functions; the amygdala, associated with emotional responses and fears; the spinal cord, associated with peripheral sensations like pain; the brain stem, associated with sleep, arousal, and motor control; and the nucleus of the solitary tract, associated with visceral sensations like nausea and vomiting.
It is known that cannabis consumption affects motor skills, reflexes, and attention; not necessarily meaning that it affects driving ability.
Research has shown the overall addiction potential for cannabis to be much less than for tobacco, alcohol, cocaine or heroin.
About mental health the scientist say that more research is needed to have a clear conclusion, though the effects are related to the dosage and the frequency of usage.
Surprisingly, an extensive study published in 2006 by Donald Tashkin of the University of California, Los Angeles found that there is no significant link between smoking cannabis and lung cancer.

My opinions about cannnbis is that cannabis should be legal, smoking tobacco is a bigger problem. So if marijuana is illegal tobacco should be too.

NOTE1: I made this huge post with the hope that it might help US learn something we are not the experts and I always thought that expressing opinions without knowing much is the worst thing somebody can do.
NOTE2: My sources are wikipedia and health magazines.

tennisman24
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I smoked constantly for 3 months to get rid of depression


Weed or cigarettes?
Graham
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you use ****ty sources


.govs are fake obviously because anyone who actually does research are liars

don't even understand any English grammar.

taking a poke at grammar when the only flaw i'm really doing is not capitals and sometimes punctuation? *tsk* *tsk* *tsk*

Go smoke some weed, then u'll understand


read a psychology book, then you'll understand

I also know a couple people with anger problems, and they just smoke weed, and its solved. That sure helps make them happier.


everyone can make up people
Blu3sBr0s
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Let's open the paper and count the stories related to marijuana...4. That is 4 stories in my daily newspaper about marijuana.

Seems Argentina has decriminalized small-scale use of marijuana. That gets the thumbs up from me. They say it is unconstitutional to prosecute cases involving the private use of marijuana.

Hey, Colombia and Mexico have already decriminalized possession of small amounts of drugs. They intend to focus on the traffickers rather than the possesors, they've got it right. Brazil and Ecuador are looking at following the lead of Colombia and Mexico.

Hmmm, a frail, almost-blind, diabetic, double amputee died from a heart attack a little while back. Why is this related to drugs you ask? Well, she was evicted from her apartment because of her need to smoke marijuana to control her pain. Most of her neighbours said that they had never smelled marijuana smoke coming from her apartment. And even though she eventually obtained legal permission for medicinal use to deal with her excrutiating phantom pain, and they knew of her habit before she moved in, she was still evicted because of the smell of pot. She couldn't take opiates because they left her unable to function, morphine made her vomit, and she was diabetic so she had to eat. "She died screaming and yelling," said her sister.

The only way to win the drug war it to decriminalize marijuana. But unfortunaetly, Ottawa cannot simply ressurect the 2003 bill the Liberals submitted to decriminalize possesion of small amounts of marijuana. Canada, the U.S, and Mexico must work together to end the drug war and reach a historical agreement to legalize, regulate, and tax marijuana. Put it on the same footing as tobacco. Sold to adults only, under strict controls and health warnings. Tobacoo has effectively been driven into the margins of society, although still legal. Do the same with pot.

This newspapers got it right.

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People whom would get drugs legally, now have no problem getting them in massive crates - soon everyone would have loads of drugs. But for what costs? Soon people would require loans to pay for the amount they'd spend - and they could not pay back their loan.

The economical crisis the world is in at the moment is due to unpaid loans and mortgages.

We wouldn't want this to happen on a massive scale. So no to legalized drugs!

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But for what costs? Soon people would require loans to pay for the amount they'd spend - and they could not pay back their loan.


Countries where marijuana was legalized saw increases in use of about 6%. No one went into debt ordering massive crates of drugs. And considering the ecenomic crisis, banks are more careful than ever before to only give out loans to people who are financially stable and can realistically pay it back.

Legalizing drugs will HELP the economy, due to the creation of a new industry and taxes imposed by the government.
tennisman24
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read a psychology book, then you'll understand


That doesn't help anyone with problems. Weed does!
Graham
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Countries where marijuana was legalized saw increases in use of about 6%


6% is 60,000,000/1,000,000,000

if they legalise it, what's stopping them from legalising other illegal drugs?

diabetic


heard of "The Munchies"?

died from a heart attack a little while back.


that's so weird,

What Other Adverse Effect Does Marijuana Have on Health?

Effects on the Heart

Marijuana increases heart rate by 20â"100 percent shortly after smoking; this effect can last up to 3 hours. In one study, it was estimated that marijuana users have a 4.8-fold increase in the risk of heart attack in the first hour after smoking the drug.7 This may be due to the increased heart rate as well as effects of marijuana on heart rhythms, causing palpitations and arrhythmias. This risk may be greater in aging populations or those with cardiac vulnerabilities.
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6% is 60,000,000/1,000,000,000


Woooow, nice math there. There were 6% more marijuana smokers after legalization. ONLY 6%! And thats a worst case scenario (if you consider rises in smoking marijuana bad)

University of California - "Another concern is that legalizing marijuana would increase its usage. However, legalized recreational drug use in the Netherlands debunks this logic. A 2004 study conducted at UC Santa Cruz comparing the usage of marijuana in the United States to that of the Netherlands examined trends in Amsterdam and San Francisco, where recreational use is generally tolerated, and concluded that legal provisions and sanctions had little relevance in promoting or preventing its use."

if they legalise it, what's stopping them from legalising other illegal drugs?


Easy. Marijuana is not addictive, heroine is. That's how you draw the line.

What Other Adverse Effect Does Marijuana Have on Health?
Effects on the Heart
Marijuana increases heart rate by 20-100 percent shortly after smoking; this effect can last up to 3 hours. In one study, it was estimated that marijuana users have a 4.8-fold increase in the risk of heart attack in the first hour after smoking the drug.7 This may be due to the increased heart rate as well as effects of marijuana on heart rhythms, causing palpitations and arrhythmias. This risk may be greater in aging populations or those with cardiac vulnerabilities.


Oh No! A temporary affect that can last for up to 3 hours! Guess what? Tobacco affects your heart permanently. Low alcohol consumption actually helps your heart, but more than 3 beers and you're doing permanent damage as well.

For your information her heart attack wasn't related to marijuana use.
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Woooow, nice math there. There were 6% more marijuana smokers after legalization. ONLY 6%! And thats a worst case scenario (if you consider rises in smoking marijuana bad)


When did they legalize marijuana?
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Certain parts of europe have Marijuana as legal, in fact you could go into a coffee shop, grab a cup of joe and a joint and relax.
I do think Marijuana should be legal, and if itr was I do not think that people would go out and get ODed on it just because it was legal (That comment is directed to what Jordanhasgerms said ``People die very easily on drugs and overuse it and if they were to make it legal SOOO many more people would O.D. more than they do now.)

In fact, my Mom suffers from back pain (and other pains) and only gets the best relife from weed, and after taking a joint she is more then able to do anything that anyone else can do with out the signs of being high. Chances are she could look a cop in the eye and he would not know she had taken a joint.

Besides, marijuana vs. Smokes you can get from a store, the smokes will kill you faster then the marijuana will.

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But the consequences of legalizing drugs would make an already large problem completely out of control.


Name the consequences.

The notion that drugs only hurt the people who use them is very shallow and illogical. One needs to look beyond themselves and look at the entire picture, and it becomes obvious that drugs have drastic effects on MANY people besides those who use them


Present me with the situation where legal, government regulated and taxed drugs hurt. And one that doesn't already exist in the form of the other 3 legal drugs.
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I do think Marijuana should be legal, and if itr was I do not think that people would go out and get ODed on it just because it was legal


I have been looking around and it seems like everyone thinks you can OD on weed.

Why do you think that?
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Well if they were to legalize marijuana they would probably make the cost so high that less people would smoke marijuana. But it's still not a good idea.

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