ForumsWEPRThat (in my opinion) IDIOT burning the koran on 9/11

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wwiifan
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If you know what I'm talking about, I hope you agree with me that he is a complete moron. He is putting our troops over in Afghanistan at risk, by making 'moderate' muslims 'extreme' muslims. Post your ideas on this topic here:

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NoNameC68
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I belive this may lead to another attack like 9/11 personlley but not as big as this time they know what they can do.


Also, this isn't an excuse.

Man 1: I'm going to burn this book.

Man 2: I'm going to kill innocent people if you burn the book.

*Man 1 burns the book*

*Man 2 kills innocent people*

Public: Oh no! Man 2 killed people! Let's blame man 1 for egging man 2 on!

Oh, and guess what you just admitted? Let me re-quote it for you.

I belive this may lead to another attack like 9/11 personlley but not as big as this time they know what they can do.


You believe it would lead to another terrorist attack? Why the **** would you defend people whom you believe would kill innocent people merely because someone burns a book?! This is all the more reason to burn the Koran!

Blame the people who actually kill innocent people. Blame those who wish to restrict our freedoms merely as a way to prevent us from hurting their feelings. Don't blame a man who wishes to burn a book as a sign that he doesn't agree with them, as a way of saying "We don't want your violence."
Thomas1st2
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Yes but they are killing innocent people because they burnt the koran. It's just like them Burning the bible it would piss me off. Plus I don't really care about America cuz it sucks they can bomb America just not England.

I have never seen a moderator so pissed off before :O

NoNameC68
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Yes but they are killing innocent people because they burnt the koran. It's just like them Burning the bible it would piss me off. Plus I don't really care about America cuz it sucks they can bomb America just not England.

I have never seen a moderator so pissed off before :O


I'm not pissed, just frustrated.

We shouldn't be forced to accept other religious views. In fact, we should be allowed to protest religion the same way we are allowed to protest government and business.

I just think it's absolutely insane to defend Muslims because they aren't all that bad, then criticize the pastor because he might start another terrorist attack.

If the Muslims are so peaceful, why fear another attack? Sure, not all of them are radical, but if there's a chance of an attack then the pastor is at least partially right.

If the pastor is right, and if the Muslims are violent people, then it's all the more reason to protest against them. If Muslims threaten America for burning the Koran, then there's reason to protest against them.

I understand that it's foolish to egg someone on to the point of pushing them into a violent fit, but you can't restrict your own freedoms so that other people who follow a faith that you don't believe in aren't offended.

Muslims believe you can't portray Muhammad a certain way. I'm not Muslim, so I shouldn't be forced to follow such a rule.

As I said, we shouldn't defend the people making threats and attack those who aren't allowing themselves to be bullied. The pastor is a religious nut himself. From what I can tell, he's also crazy. But his reactions are a result of the violence that we see coming from the Muslim religion, even if the violence is only coming from the minority of the people.
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Why are we still talking about this is if he didn't do it anyway.

Elgoogsy
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NoNamec68 is right now being the smartest person on the forums

samy
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Plus I don't really care about America cuz it sucks they can bomb America just not England.


Clearly if America was bombed London would get out scotch free then right?

Sure, not all of them are radical, but if there's a chance of an attack then the pastor is at least partially right.


Eh, there's a chance all the 16 year old white males in the world will snap and go on a killing rampage but that chance isn't very high. I don't think it's fair to judge people based upon what they might do or what a minority of them have done.

Either way I agree with the majority of the rest of your post, he should be free to burn the Koran but he's still an idiot for doing so.

Why are we still talking about this is if he didn't do it anyway.


Because it shows how idiotic some people can be when faced with something they don't fully understand, like a witch. We just have a tendency of burning things we don't get I suppose.
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Eh, there's a chance all the 16 year old white males in the world will snap and go on a killing rampage but that chance isn't very high. I don't think it's fair to judge people based upon what they might do or what a minority of them have done.


There are many people who use their Muslim faith as reason to harm other people. It's because of these people the pastor threatened to burn the Koran. If I'm not mistaken, he believed all Muslims were evil, which isn't true.

If people are going to use the Koran as an excuse to kill, I see no reason why one shouldn't burn the Koran. This goes for any other book. Sure, maybe the non violent Muslims would become offended, but the message isn't supposed to be aimed towards them, it's supposed to be aimed towards the radicals.
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Clearly if America was bombed London would get out scotch free then right?


I aint botherd about London they can bomb it for all I care just not Liverpool

Why are we still talking about this is if he didn't do it anyway.


He did he ripped it up and put it in a cigaret and smoked it aswell as the bible.



But should'nt the Muslims be happy as the idiot also burnt the most Holy thing on Earth the Bible
samy
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I aint botherd about London they can bomb it for all I care just not Liverpool


Your ignorance is showing.

There are many people who use their Muslim faith as reason to harm other people.


Many compared to what? And do they use the Muslim faith or their Muslim faith as a reason? There is a difference.

If I'm not mistaken, he believed all Muslims were evil, which isn't true.


I'm fairly sure you're right.

If people are going to use the Koran as an excuse to kill, I see no reason why one shouldn't burn the Koran. This goes for any other book. Sure, maybe the non violent Muslims would become offended, but the message isn't supposed to be aimed towards them, it's supposed to be aimed towards the radicals.


I agree and if his message was much more focused on radicals I might have been able to condone his message. I'm not overly concerned with offending people but there is a line of moral decency.
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Christians were just as bad as the most radical Muslims are now. Ever heard og the Crusades?

Also, what would you do if they burned the Bible publicly or spat on the cross?

samy
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Also, what would you do if they burned the Bible publicly or spat on the cross?


Continue being annoyed, I don't really care what religion you're protesting burning its holy book generally isn't the answer.

I prefer intellectual debates over idiots talking about magnets (points if you get the reference).
Dragonblaze052
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If everyone thought as you do, the world would be a much better place.

samy
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If everyone thought as you do, the world would be a much better place.


Ha, I tend to be much more of an idealist online than I am in person; working or transferring it over to my actions though.

Anyway, I still hold the pastor burning them was an idiot but it's really not his fault; it's almost the "American" thing to do to hate and fear Muslims.

Ever heard og the Crusades


That I have, they're way to overlooked. If more people understood what they were perhaps tit would put 9/11 into perspective.
Dragonblaze052
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Some Muslims are still holding personal grudges for what happened to their great-great-great-great-grandparents. Just think of the cultural grudges they can hold.

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Many compared to what? And do they use the Muslim faith or their Muslim faith as a reason? There is a difference.


The one backed by the Koran.

Also, what would you do if they burned the Bible publicly or spat on the cross?


Muslims have burned the American flag plenty of times, does that count?

burning its holy book generally isn't the answer.


Why not? Why should we hold back on burning Holy Books of religions we don't agree with? I know where you're coming from, you feel it's immature.

People don't burn flags and holy books to win debates, they do so because it's a symbol of discontent. He is showing his discontent and what better way to do so than to burn a Holy Book? It's just a book.

You should never burn books that are rare, but if there's thousands of them being printed constantly, it really isn't a big deal. It's no different than buying an xbox and smashing it while shouting "PS3 is much better."
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