Okay, so God does not require blind faith. He sent Jesus, who performed a lot a amazing miracles. However, most people still did not believe Him. If he presented more proof, it would no longer be faith.
Over time he repeated the experiment with five other dying humans - and got a variety of differing results which rather invalidated his premise.
There are a number of things not taken into account that also invalidate his premise, such as the release of gases from the body after death.
Okay, so God does not require blind faith. He sent Jesus, who performed a lot a amazing miracles. However, most people still did not believe Him. If he presented more proof, it would no longer be faith.
All of which are completely unsubstantiated claims which is why people still don't believe it based on Jesus's miracles.
Before you say it yes I know the Bible says there were hundreds of witnesses. This is also an unsubstantiated claim as there are no reports of these miracles from any of these people. In fact Jesus is barely mentioned after his supposed miracles for almost 30 years. What happened, everyone just forget and not even bother to talk about it to anyone else?
The only real mention of Jesus comes from Paul, and this is in passing. It wasn't until the first of the four Gospels was written that Jesus is mentioned in detail, and even his first account is likely not a first hand one. The other gospels were written much later with Luke being the last nearly a century after the fact, at a time when it's likely there would have been no living witnesses to such events. Another interesting point is following the order in which the gospels are written you see each one adding to the story making it more and more miracles and magical elements again which Luke containing the most. This indicates that these events are actually made up to further bolster the story rather then actual accounts.
I don't get why people would not think that Jesus was Gods son. All the miracles were true there are many accounts of miracles that Jesus performed. Also God did miracles with mosas.
Anyway, get Jesus to come down here right now and perform a miracle. It shouldn't be too difficult. If he appears and performs something that can be verified as miraculous - then I'll believe he simply has advanced alien technology.
Okay, so God does not require blind faith. He sent Jesus, who performed a lot a amazing miracles. However, most people still did not believe Him. If he presented more proof, it would no longer be faith.
That's all you got? Then why not become a Muslim, Mo did more amazing miracles then Jebuz. And he is also the worlds greatest boxer. Then there is Zeus, who had many children who all preformed miracles. And then of course there is my favorite, science, which has preformed more amazing miracles than both those guys combined. Jeebuz's must amazing mythical was bringing only himself back to life, science brings people back on a regular bases. Sooo how are these "miracles" evidence of any kind?
Next, why would this deity want blind faith? Demand it? On pain of eternal torture? Quite frankly that would be a good tool for priests to convert and thus make money, but I don't see how the actual deity could use this blind faith...
I don't get why people would not think that Jesus was Gods son. All the miracles were true there are many accounts of miracles that Jesus performed. Also God did miracles with mosas.
Considering the Bible was written hundreds of years after the accounts of Jesus Christ after all the accounts have been watered down a smidgen, you'd assume that at least SOME of the accounts were exaggerated. You should also realize that the Bible is the ONLY thing the Christian faith has in terms of "arguments". Considering the fact that there are questionable actions and methods in which God still commands us to do, even now, should make you question AT LEAST the Bible.
It is in our psychological nature as intelligent primates to want to have a higher up as an official, telling us how do behave in order to ascend to a higher status in life and beyond. We want to feel good knowing that death is not the last of us. God is simply the perfect alpha-male. Everyone that is commanded by him is his responsibility, even though he has no direct influence. Everything goes on without his influence, even though it is his responsibility as leader. However, when someone directly challenges him as the alpha-male, he kicks their asses. God is the perfect alpha-male. Symbolized as the silver-back gorilla.
Also, when we die, we become one with the Earth, as in we get biodegraded. We decay.
I don't get why people would not think that Jesus was Gods son. All the miracles were true there are many accounts of miracles that Jesus performed.
Did you bother reading even the first sentence of my post? The accounts are no better then if I were to say "I can fly just like superman. Hundreds of people have seen it too, so it must be true." Neither the claim of being able to fly or the claim that hundreds of people have seen it is supported by evidence. So saying hundreds of people saw me flying like superman is proof that I can fly like superman is just using one unsupported claim to back up another.
Next, why would this deity want blind faith? Demand it? On pain of eternal torture? Quite frankly that would be a good tool for priests to convert and thus make money, but I don't see how the actual deity could use this blind faith.
"I am the great and powerful God!... No, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!"
That little paraphrase is basically how I and I bet many other atheists view faith.
Maybe reincarnation to a mindless zombie (e.g. a Christian fundamentalist)
The only reincarnation I can think of is that the atoms etc that we are made of eventually make it back into a living creature. Makes the idea that we return to the earth a lot more meaningful.
I die, get buried. The worm makes the earth all nice with my remains. It rains. The nutrients get washed to the lower layers where all trees etc are connected thru a crazy web of fungus that actually shares nutrients around the trees. A tree grows an apple using some of the molecules of my body. A pregnant mother eats the apple. I become part of the foetus thats growing. I am reborn... well... an absolutly tiny part of the minerals that helped make me are reborn anyway!
Is that the reincarnation you were talking about Backflip ol buddy ol pal?
I die, get buried. The worm makes the earth all nice with my remains. It rains. The nutrients get washed to the lower layers where all trees etc are connected thru a crazy web of fungus that actually shares nutrients around the trees. A tree grows an apple using some of the molecules of my body. A pregnant mother eats the apple. I become part of the foetus thats growing. I am reborn... well... an absolutly tiny part of the minerals that helped make me are reborn anyway!
If that is what he was talking about then it doesn't even require brain death for it to happen as we are constantly shedding old dead cells.
If that is what he was talking about then it doesn't even require brain death for it to happen as we are constantly shedding old dead cells.
Lol... I never thought of it that way.
Maybe we need to discuss a consensus as to what reincarnations would come from then. Maybe the thing has to die and the particles of the dead body be used. So when we die our bodies that are no longer producing anything new (exept our hair and nails). Just an idea really.
So I think we can safely say, from what we KNOW anyways, where we go when we die. We return to the earth. Tho from what your saying mage, we are returning to the earth all the time. So we never really left etc etc etc etc...
All this is making me hungry. Chocolate cake anyone?
The hair and nails don't actually continue to grow after death. What happens is the skin recedes as part of the decomposition of the body giving the appearance that the hair and nails have grown.
