Ok. I've done some ritual and my original topic probably came off as a bit... zealous. I think I'll explain a couple of things now.
I do worship satan. I ritual, and i have pentagrams all over my house. I do not have a pet goat. They creep the **** out of me.
Satan, to me, does not represent every evil ever enacted, but instead, indulgence and pleasure. Let's take a look at christianity. Not allowed to have intercourse before marriage, no homosexual marriage, rest on the sabbath day, don't eat meat on Fridays, and fast for forty days in the spring.
Satan doesn't believe in limitations, he says that everyone should indulge themselves in their wants and desires. Quite the positive character, no? and remember, we are talking about Satan. Beezlebub. Lucifer. That guy.
Not jesus, god. and because God is the lord of all
Arn't they the same person?
Sooo this guy is ruler, which gives him the power to morally torture everyone? So if I become president, I could torture everyone without any moral scruples? This doesn't compute, what sane ruler would kill its subjects?
Satan is known about because of the Bible, to look at Satan through any other light than the Bible wouldn't be correct. Satan's only goal is to bring people down to the suffering of Hell by tempting them to sin. Consider Satan as something else and your no longer talking about Satan.
Prove that Satan exists and prove that the Bible is accurate about him. Or are you just going to say that 'Satan exists because the Bible says so, I know the Bible is correct because the Bible says so'.
They are not the same person. Jesus is gods son. yet they are the same trinity: Father, Son and Holy Spirit There are probable some dictators who do kill their subjects. However If some one steals from a store their whole life and get caught and the police find out it all- dont you think they would get a greater punishment compared to one who steals once? God punishing those people is the same way- if one has their whole life to become a follower of God, and they reject it? shouldnt one be punished?
Consider Satan as something else and your no longer talking about Satan.
In comparison to the things God has done Satan isn't that bad. Even the things Satan has done, they were done with God's Okay. If there is real conflict between these two beings then this puts God's omnipotence in question.
They are not the same person. Jesus is gods son. yet they are the same trinity: Father, Son and Holy Spirit
Sooo...He is god. Nice job clearing that up. That is definitely not mumbo-jumbo at all...
There are probable some dictators who do kill their subjects. However If some one steals from a store their whole life and get caught and the police find out it all- dont you think they would get a greater punishment compared to one who steals once?
No. Lawfully they would only get charged for the one crime, unless it was proven that the others were also done by him. And besides that, if you were stealing from it your entire life, it would be likely that you would need it.(Why else would you steel as a child?)making it morally OK, especially if it were food and such...
God punishing those people is the same way- if one has their whole life to become a follower of God, and they reject it?
Than what is wrong with that?
shouldnt one be punished?
****ING BLOODY HELL NO! They didn't do anything wrong at all...
They are not the same person. Jesus is gods son. yet they are the same trinity: Father, Son and Holy Spirit
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Where in the Bible does it say God is a trinity? jesus is the son but is not God but is part of the trinity that is God so wouldn't that mean Jesus is 1/3 of God? or if you want to use the states of water example of ice, vapor, and liquid, then you are saying Jesus is God just in a different state. So no matter how you cut the crap it's still crap.
God punishing those people is the same way- if one has their whole life to become a follower of God, and they reject it? shouldnt one be punished?
Nope, for that matter what does God need with worship?
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
-John 1:1
The Trinity in the bible. The 5th verse, I suppose, actually applies to the topic of the thread.
