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ChillzMaster
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Ok. I've done some ritual and my original topic probably came off as a bit... zealous. I think I'll explain a couple of things now.

I do worship satan. I ritual, and i have pentagrams all over my house. I do not have a pet goat. They creep the **** out of me.

Satan, to me, does not represent every evil ever enacted, but instead, indulgence and pleasure. Let's take a look at christianity. Not allowed to have intercourse before marriage, no homosexual marriage, rest on the sabbath day, don't eat meat on Fridays, and fast for forty days in the spring.

Satan doesn't believe in limitations, he says that everyone should indulge themselves in their wants and desires. Quite the positive character, no? and remember, we are talking about Satan. Beezlebub. Lucifer. That guy.

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MageGrayWolf
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When they say fear they mean reverential awe.


Considering it was being compare to being punished by your parents, it sure doesn't sound like that was the definition being used.

Were you ever scared your dad was coming to spank you? Were you scared of being yelled at or scolded?


Nope, not really.
Pazx
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Considering it was being compare to being punished by your parents, it sure doesn't sound like that was the definition being used.


That was my opinion, he's entitled to his own. I've never really heard about this God we have to fear, I was trying to cast light on the situation though.

Nope, not really.


Lenient parents >_>
MageGrayWolf
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Lenient parents >_>


They just used different methods then scare tactics. If I was acting up they would set me aside and wait til I had gotten it out of my system then reasoned with me.
MoonFairy
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You think we should fear those we love? That's messed up.

I concur.

I'm not that freaked out about what my parents do to discipline me. I've pretty much become immune to their tactics.

When they say fear they mean reverential awe.

Hey, you see what you put beside the bold? <Fear God>.
Way to contradict yourself.
MageGrayWolf
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3: to have a reverential awe of <fear God>


Got to say I'm seriously questioning this definition.

Webster Dictionary would seem to somewhat contradict this definition.

http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/fear

2. (Script.) Apprehension of incurring, or solicitude to avoid, God's wrath; the trembling and awful reverence felt toward the Supreme Being.
Reton8
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2. (Script.) Apprehension of incurring, or solicitude to avoid, God's wrath; the trembling and awful reverence felt toward the Supreme Being.

http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/solicitude

Definition of solicitude


n. 1. The state of being solicitous; uneasiness of mind occasioned by fear of evil or desire good; anxiety.

The many cares and great labors of worldly men, their solicitude and outward shows.
- Sir W. Raleigh.

The mother looked at her with fond solicitude.
- G. W. Cable.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/solicitude

Definition of SOLICITUDE

1 a : the state of being concerned and anxious
b : attentive care and protectiveness; also : an attitude of earnest concern or attention <expressed solicitude for his health>

2 : a cause of care or concern -usually used in plural


http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/awful

Definition of Awful

a. 1. Oppressing with fear or horror; appalling; terrible; as, an awful scene.

2. Inspiring awe; filling with profound reverence, or with fear and admiration; fitted to inspire reverential fear; profoundly impressive.

Heaven's awful Monarch.
- Milton.

3. Struck or filled with awe; terror-stricken.
A weak and awful reverence for antiquity.
- I. Watts.

4. Worshipful; reverential; law-abiding.
Thrust from the company of awful men.
- Shak.

5. Frightful; exceedingly bad; great; - applied intensively; as, an awful bonnet; an awful boaster.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/awful

Definition of AWFUL

1 : inspiring awe

2 : filled with awe: as a obsolete: afraid, terrified
b : deeply respectful or reverential

3 : extremely disagreeable or objectionable <awful food>

4 : exceedingly great â"used as an intensive <an awful lot of money>

http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/Awe


Definition of Awe


n. 1. Dread; great fear mingled with respect.

His frown was full of terror, and his voice
Shook the delinquent with such fits of awe.
- Cowper.

2. The emotion inspired by something dreadful and sublime; an undefined sense of the dreadful and the sublime; reverential fear' or solemn wonder; profound reverence.

There is an awe in mortals' joy,
A deep mysterious fear.
- Keble.

To tame the pride of that power which held the Continent in awe.
- Macaulay.

The solitude of the desert, or the loftiness of the mountain, may fill the mind with awe - the sense of our own littleness in some greater presence or power.
- C. J. Smith.

To stand in awe of
to fear greatly; to reverence profoundly.

v. t.
1. To strike with fear and reverence; to inspire with awe; to control by inspiring dread.
[imp. & p. p. Awed ( ) ; p. pr. & vb. n. Awing.]

That same eye whose bend doth awe the world.
- Shak.

His solemn and pathetic exhortation awed and melted the bystanders.
- Macaula

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/awe?show=0&t=1289871374

Definition of AWE


1: an emotion variously combining dread, veneration, and wonder that is inspired by authority or by the sacred or sublime <stood in awe of the king> <regard nature's wonders with awe>

2 archaic a : dread, terror
b : the power to inspire dread

This is confusing. It looks like fear is somewhat used like awe and either means you revere something, revere and dread something, or are inspired by dread. But it also looks like the dread is being mixed with a powerful positive emotion.

Blackwolves990
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the exorcist ritual is one too

wolf1991
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But it also looks like the dread is being mixed with a powerful positive emotion.


This is the problem with language. To some a word means one thing, to others it may mean something simillar, but slightly altered. I suggest we use the most common definition of fear.
ChillzMaster
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Lenient parents >_>


See? This is what I'm talking about. Catholics and the like beat their children if they do not live "like God's children". Us Satan-worshippers find children to be the pinnacle of humanity, never hurting them, but guiding them in a progressive and positive path.

If you hit your child and instill fear of "God's Wrath", (oh look at me, I can shoot plagues, big whoop, fallen angels still kick more ***) then all that's going to come out of it is a violent, child-beating, God-fearing Christian. Not a good outcome. Us Sadists want only the best for the children. It's actually a Satanic Rule to Never Hurt Children.
Pazx
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Hey, you see what you put beside the bold? <Fear God>.
Way to contradict yourself.


It's funny how you can't read. "<Fear God>" means "to have a reverential awe of God"

See? This is what I'm talking about. Catholics and the like beat their children if they do not live "like God's children".


You have a misconceived view of Catholics.
Reton8
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I suggest we use the most common definition of fear.


The word fear does have a common meaning, the definitions given, not just one of them, but all of them.

The problems with language are many. Not only is common, spoken, everyday language (used in conversations) quite different from proper written, language, it also changes throughout the centuries. (old English, middle English, modern English). Also time and place can change how a word is perceived. In America a biscuit is a type of bread. In some European countries a biscuit is what Americans would call a cookie. Go back twenty years and swagger would have meant only it's proper definition, "to conduct oneself in an arrogant or superciliously pompous manner; especially : to walk with an air of overbearing self-confidence". Now it has adopted a slang meaning of, "a person's style- they way they walk, talk, dress." (yes it's the urban dictionary because I'm giving a slang definition). Swagger still has some of it's original meaning, but it's starting to mean something different.

Some words even gain an opposite meaning. Take the word terrific
it used to basically be an adjective describing something terrible or bad. Now the word terrific is almost always used in the complete opposite sense, in a positive manor. (For example "I love that game it's terrific!&quot

http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-ter1.htm

A quote from the site above:
"Terrific, as you say, has gone further than either of these by not merely weakening but completely inverting its sense. It started out, around the time of Milton, as the adjective related to terror, "causing terror, terrifying; fitted to terrify; dreadful, terrible, frightful", as the OED comprehensively puts it.
I don't see how it would be so correct to just assume that when the word fear was used as the translation that they just meant one and only one of the many possible definitions."

In short, languages change depending on time, place, and because how languages evolve. Words may carry multiple proper meanings and also may have some slang meanings as well. If a text was written one way at one time, the source should be considered. In order to understand a text in it's full context, especially if the text is historically, you have to look at when it was written, when it was translated, what language was it originally written in, what idea is trying to be conveyed in the text, and how was the text translated.

So, just to say that the word fear always means; a terrifying feeling produced by the presence of some negative and imposing force would be incorrect and doesn't do the word or language any justice.
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And so it falls to me to ask: Why?

Each of those are the beginnings of very in depth threads, but the simplify, the Bible says not to. You may want to do something, but that doesn't make it right. You may want to murder someone, but that doesn't make it right.

because you're a brainwashed Catholic, plain and simple. too ignorant of other beliefs to comprehend what individuals with levels of higher-thinking are discussing. It's almost cute.

I am not a Catholic, I am a born-again Christian. An you have a horrible understanding of Christianity. I guess I don't have a good understanding of Satanism, but I know that it's wrong.

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I guess I don't have a good understanding of Satanism, but I know that it's wrong.


If you don't understand how can you know its wrong?
cddm95ace
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Because I know that Satan is evil, and even if I don't understand the specifics, anything that worships Satan has to be wrong.

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Please note that if I read any more posts like:

because you're a brainwashed Catholic, plain and simple. too ignorant of other beliefs to comprehend what individuals with levels of higher-thinking are discussing. It's almost cute.


I will plunge my thumbs into your eye sockets.

I'm serious.

No. Seriously, I'll pull the hammer out.

STOP FLAMING OTHER MEMBERS! Gah.
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