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Zultimategamer2000
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as a pats fan, i must say that brady is better. and not just becuz of that, but several other factors as well.
playoff records
brady: 14-4
manning: 9-9
rings
Brady: 3
manning: 1
brady has won 3 rings with no-name WRs, he has the TD record when he finally got a good WR in moss, he has turned welker from no-name to a pro-bowler, his career rating is just 0.1 lower than that of manning's which so many manning fans love to fluant, and brady is being best right about now, and overall there avg stats are about the same. want proof? read em and weep manning fans.
i did this by taking away the 2010 season stats except for QB rating, then dividing it by the # of seasons they have played as a starter
brady: 3855 yds 7.4 YPA 28 TDs 12 Ints 63.6% Comp% QB Rating 94.7
manning: 4177 yds 7.6 YPA 30 TDs 15 Ints 64.9% Comp% QB Rating 94.9

if you ask me, these stats are overall similar, and when u throw in 3 Rings 14-4 vs 1 ring and 9-9, i would have to say that overall brady is better

GO PATS AND BRADY!

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DrDanny
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Brady didn't have 11 ints in 3 games, so he is my pick for the better. But i really don't like either of them

Roadripper
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Hey Roadripper, are you angry because Philip Rivers molested the 49ers pass defense yesterday? Boo hoo.


-.- I know that our pass defense is not as good, but there were 3 key plays that made it a blowout. If those three plays happened in the 49ers favor, we would have at least 28 points, and SD might not have had 34. Im just saying. The real problem with the 49ers the the quarterback.

But lets stay on topic. Those numbers are vary similar, so really its hard to tell a clear winner. Obviously, the Pats have won more games so you could make a case for Brady, although thats a team win. So its hard to tell.

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The real problem with the 49ers the the quarterback.


Bad quarterbacks throw often to their tightends. Whose my tightend right now in fantasy football? One of the reasons why I love the 49'ers QB.

Obviously, the Pats have won more games so you could make a case for Brady, although thats a team win.


Which is why I vote for Manning. The Colts have a far worse team, and the fact that Manning can consistently put up numbers like he has is just further testament his greatness.
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Which is why I vote for Manning. The Colts have a far worse team, and the fact that Manning can consistently put up numbers like he has is just further testament his greatness.


Yes, like I said before. A terrible running game, basically no run defense and an average pass defense.

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Zultimategamer2000
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well maverick, manning has had more ints in his career than brady, in both the playoffs and the regular season. so there goes the whole "he makes fewer mistakes". and also, manning is only older by all of 1 year.
and b4 u say he has played more so thats why he has more interceptions, his avg TD/ Int is about 1.9 TDs for every 1 Int, brady's is about 2.5 TDs to every 1 Int.

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tom brady is 10 times better than peyton because peyton tends to choke during clutch moments and end up throwing an interception, peyton also lost me 50 dollars during the superbowl.

Roadripper
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peyton also lost me 50 dollars during the superbowl.


Lol Payton lost me like 15 dollars during the Super Bowl.

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A terrible running game, basically no run defense and an average pass defense.


Technically, this doesn't really mean that Manning is better. NFL 101: When a team has a bad defense, they give up a lot of points. Thus, their QB has to throw the ball A LOT just to keep their team in the game; ex: Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, Warren Moon to name a few HOF QBs who played for teams with crappy defenses.
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well maverick, manning has had more ints in his career than brady, in both the playoffs and the regular season. so there goes the whole "he makes fewer mistakes". and also, manning is only older by all of 1 year.


Please, call me Mav. As stated previously my myself and others, and RR in the post after mine, Manning's team has a crappier defense. The defense doesn't contribute as much to the game, which stresses the offense to make more and bigger plays. This means the Manning as to throw the ball more, and thus the more interceptions. Seeing as he throws more, its wonders he gets the numbers he does; he actually should be deteroritating as the season progresses. And 1 year is a HUGE difference, just as your mom. :P

Thus, their QB has to throw the ball A LOT just to keep their team in the game; ex: Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, Warren Moon to name a few HOF QBs who played for teams with crappy defenses.


Exactly. (see above post)
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omg..... is this thread still alive.... is not clear that TOM BRADY is THE BEST QB TODAY...... hmmph but as individuals we r entitled to our own opinions.....
Tom
CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
2010 284 425 3398 66.8 8.00 79 29 4 21 109.9

Pey
CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
2010 378 569 4028 66.4 7.08 73 26 15 14 91.2

peyton is goooood i will never deny that however...... lets not LIE and says hes better than tom plzzzzzzz, and no those stats are not there to back me up(although they do).... they r there for ur interpretation.

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Excuse if a few things on that post r unclear butttt i was guessing on how to set up that chart so it would be clear as possible... still it can be interpreted properly, and the stats are accurate.

Zultimategamer2000
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well overall, their career avgs are very similar so the whole manning blows brday out of the water in stats has evaporated.
and mav, thats true that his defense sucks. but so does brady's this season cept for the past 2 games and the game against the dolphins, yet he leads the NFL in TDs, Ints(meaning he has the FEWEST, not the most), and QB Rating.

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and mav, thats true that his defense sucks. but so does brady's this season cept for the past 2 games and the game against the dolphins, yet he leads the NFL in TDs, Ints(meaning he has the FEWEST, not the most), and QB Rating.


I'm talking historically. The Pats have historically had the better defense, and The Colts have historically had a worse defense. So that Manning can pull of the numbers he can means that he's a great QB, while Brady pulliing the numbers he does is only to be expected.
Zultimategamer2000
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so when manning is playing with back up players, its expected for him to throw 11 ints in 3 games?
brady is playing with his 4th string RB, woodhead who got cut by the jets, welker who no one heard of pre-07, branch who did next to nothing in seattle, tate whom i STILL have no clue about, but he is succeeding. and that works HOW?

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so when manning is playing with back up players, its expected for him to throw 11 ints in 3 games?
brady is playing with his 4th string RB, woodhead who got cut by the jets, welker who no one heard of pre-07, branch who did next to nothing in seattle, tate whom i STILL have no clue about, but he is succeeding. and that works HOW?


Your poor grammer makes it hard to decipher your post, but I will try:

Yes and No. When your playing with 2nd, 3rd, or 4th string players, I expect you to do worse. You're not used to them, and they make more mistakes because they don't play as much. Still, 11 Interceptions is high, but I will say it again 'layers have off games'.

And so Brady is playing with nobodies, so what? Manning has done it, other QBs have done it, EVERYBODY does it. And since Brady is playing with less expierenced/worse players, I expect his stats to begin dropping.
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