My friend and I got into a conversation the other day, and he left me with the statement that Religion blinds people. He never explained what that meant, but I still want to know; based on your guys experiences, does Religion blind? And if so, how does it blind? Does it blind you from accepting all reality, or just another reality that you don't want to face?
You're at least 26? Bugger - I've been treating you as an equal when really you stood above me. If I wasn't so lazy when arguing, I thought I'd stand on equal ground to you, looks like I'm at least 7 years too early.
Back on topic, I'm interested in hearing what Manny's father has to say as well, it could spin this off into an interesting direction or further prove that children are highly likely to follow their parents blindly in terms of religion.
^This and this > "yes, and religeon can't control them, you always control yourself." seem to be contradictory. If religion is meant to run your life than your not really controlling it yourself.
OK, I said it wrong(lack of experience), you're meant to use religion to run your life.
for your age you have done well.
that's because I often involve myself in disscussion on the playground. Sometimes, they're about WW2(one friend is Russian and 2 English so the disscusion is ussually about why russia won/lost some battles or whatever), my russian friend is also atheist but he's not very open minded when it comes to that(you d***h***, god doesn't exist) and I disscuss that with him with another friend who is also christian.
I don't particularly like to think of it as a win lose situation. It's more about personal gain.
yes, but usually in the end someone has no argument against the other 'disscussor'. but I think this kind of disscussion won't reach a clear end, because this kind of stuff has been talked about for a long, long time and has worldwide(I think) still not reached an end. And I don't think it will as it is a matter of your personal beliefs, and there is lots of evidence backing up both sides.
yes i do believe religion blinds. like for an example did anyone see that that senator open the bible read from it then said "thier global warming wont happen" i could go on with thing like these. I'm not saying its bad to be religious just sometime it messes with people choices
I do not believe that religion blinds, however if you let your ignorance control you then it shall. Religion opens your eyes to the world around you and to different ideas and ideals. However, if you become so caught up in your religion, like extremists who still believe in the doctrine of creation (god made everything perfect) or other such things. Those extremists close of the world around them instead of letting it surround them. All the while that im typing this i keep thinking back to the far more peaceful religion of Bhudism, which i can see no ignorance in from my point of view. I am, however, an athiest and do not believe in any gods of any kind and therefor do not see things from a religous point of view. All in all religion is truly what you make of it, it is there to teach you and only if you let it, will it blind you. It is not more about "does it blind" for that is your choice whether it does or does not, it should be: how does religion change your point of view, because that statement shall remain true to all because of different morals and teachings you will see things in a different light, whilst ,again, only if you let it will it blind you.
like for an example did anyone see that that senator open the bible read from it then said "thier global warming wont happen" i could go on with thing like these
lol, I can just imagine some politician standing up in some parliament meeting and saying: 'global warming won't happen because I think that's what the bible says'.
Religion opens your eyes to the world around you and to different ideas and ideals.
It makes up things about the world and asserts it as true. I would hardly call that opening ones eyes to the world around them.
like extremists who still believe in the doctrine of creation (god made everything perfect) or other such things.
When that religion asserts the doctrine of creation as true wouldn't believing in that religion not blinding?
All the while that im typing this i keep thinking back to the far more peaceful religion of Bhudism, which i can see no ignorance in from my point of view.
Originally Buddhism was not a religion and some say it was wrongly turned into one. So in a way treating Buddhism as a religion is blind.
It makes up things about the world and asserts it as true. I would hardly call that opening ones eyes to the world around them.
Well, the things that it makes up, which ahve been disproven are clearly metaphorical, the things which have not been proven or disproven are beliefs. If it was proven it would be knowing.
Well, the things that it makes up, which ahve been disproven are clearly metaphorical, the things which have not been proven or disproven are beliefs. If it was proven it would be knowing.
Believing something to be true without proof is called faith. You can believe in something that does have proof. Our knowledge is based on the evidence which we can then use to come to conclusions. Some people believe those conclusions while others do not. Some people don't apply belief but accept those conclusions as true. having knowledge of something doesn't eliminate belief.
Religion does not blind, it is the people who blind themselves.
Each individual is an island, formulating there on opinions and ideals based on the knowledge and experience they have accumulated over the years. So, if two people with the same problem goes to a Christian mass, one will leave with a different experience than the other. For example, the former my leave with mental strength and hope to conquer the problem, while the later my leave with the idea that his problem was caused by the devil and blaming everything on him, leading this person to an ever growing intent of doing God's work themselves, turning him into a zealot.
WhiteHat, I believe there is more to it than just that.
One of the problems that I see, is to accept Christian doctrine you have to accept moral laws and codes that are borderline inhumane. Because you have such extreme notions in the Bible, you then have Christians that pick and choose what they want to follow (which is an entirely different, but equally as large problem).
When you have folks that pick and choose certain notions to follow from a holy book, like the Bible, you end up with a pretty skewed view of the world. People condemning others for their actions, etc.
i kinda agree with what pry0 said if you let religion blind you it will you need control so u dont turn into some extremist that think their religion is supreme and all others are wrong... thats how nazi were born
