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valkery
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My friend and I got into a conversation the other day, and he left me with the statement that Religion blinds people. He never explained what that meant, but I still want to know; based on your guys experiences, does Religion blind? And if so, how does it blind? Does it blind you from accepting all reality, or just another reality that you don't want to face?

Please try to be insightful.

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MageGrayWolf
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When you have folks that pick and choose certain notions to follow from a holy book, like the Bible, you end up with a pretty skewed view of the world. People condemning others for their actions, etc.


With text like the Bible I don't see how one could follow it without picking and choosing.

you need control so u dont turn into some extremist that think their religion is supreme and all others are wrong...


Most if not all religions make just that claim though, that they are right and everyone else is wrong.
pyr0maniac
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Most if not all religions make just that claim though, that they are right and everyone else is wrong.


That is one of the reasons religion can blind, although there are people who accept all religions there are also those who reject all but thier own, ergo blinding them from the veiws of others, it truly is up to the individual to choose whether to be blinded or not. If all religions accept that theirs are not the only or the true religion then it will no longer blind. but the chances of that are extremely slim, maybe when religion holds no power will it not blind.
MageGrayWolf
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although there are people who accept all religions there are also those who reject all but thier own,


Is accepting all religion really following religion though?

If all religions accept that theirs are not the only or the true religion then it will no longer blind.


But religion doesn't do that. So if doing so is blind and that is what religion does, than it is blinding.

but the chances of that are extremely slim, maybe when religion holds no power will it not blind.


When religion holds no power we won't have religion.
pyr0maniac
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Is accepting all religion really following religion though?

I am an atheist, ergo do not follow religion and so do not understand some of it. I also find that religion is more of a moral code now, due to sciences intervention and discoveries, ergo making it difference of behaviour and culture more than history.

But religion doesn't do that. So if doing so is blind and that is what religion does, than it is blinding.

It all depends on how YOU, the individual, follows it, because as i previously stated, its more of a culture, to follow it is fine if you are open to others, instead of locking out any belief that theres is a religion at all. And yess you would still folow it. What I meant there was that if the whole religion accepted all the other religions
When religion holds no power we won't have religion.
once again i believe religion is culture, it does not need power, only people to follow it and i know that may count as power to some, but if all the people accept then it won't be power.

very good points though, and they hold true, but it does come down to a matter of oppinion, which varies in all people.

I love this thread.
MageGrayWolf
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I also find that religion is more of a moral code now, due to sciences intervention and discoveries, ergo making it difference of behaviour and culture more than history.


A moral code is only one aspect of religion. Considering how many religions treat morality as an absolute even here we run into problems.

It all depends on how YOU, the individual, follows it, because as i previously stated, its more of a culture, to follow it is fine if you are open to others, instead of locking out any belief that theres is a religion at all.


Yes, but that's not how religion does things, it asserts itself as the one right way.
You can believe in a god or gods but not be religious. I think what your proposing seems more along these lines.

once again i believe religion is culture, it does not need power, only people to follow it and i know that may count as power to some, but if all the people accept then it won't be power.


I would say that counts as power as it's at the very least influencing the decisions those followers are making.
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[quote]although there are people who accept all religions there are also those who reject all but thier own,

Is accepting all religion really following religion though?[/quote]

with the catholic church, well, if you aren't catholic doesn't mean you go to hell or anything. it accepts anyone who does good stuff.
nickthepwn
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Manny, that's why they say things akin to, "Jesus Christ is the only path to salvation" right.

Oh wait.

manny6574
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well, if you do something good, you did something that Jesus said so you followed his path so...

manny6574
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Jesus said


*sigh*

Jesus said to do
Avorne
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Screw that - I'm not following any path laid out by Jesus when I do good things. Just like I'm not following the path laid out by Hitler when I ask for a bag of apples. Just because someone said something during their lifetime - doesn't mean that you're following their path.

MageGrayWolf
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well, if you do something good, you did something that Jesus said so you followed his path so...


What's considered good is a subjective concept. So what's good to one person can be considered bad to another.
manny6574
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What's considered good is a subjective concept.


very good point, lets call it.. ****.. from a christian point of view.

Screw that - I'm not following any path laid out by Jesus when I do good things


Well, the catholic church accepts you anyway. And maybe not following consciously.
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Religion can blind people. Like in christianity if you think bad stuff it will be a sin so it kinda prevents you from thinking as freely as you might.

Of course religion blinds. If you strictly believe in that religion then the blinding effects are all the more obvious - you disengage yourself from the parts of reality and logic which show certain parts of your belief system to be wrong and ignore all facts which could 'harm' you.

I agree completly with that.
MageGrayWolf
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Well, the catholic church accepts you anyway. And maybe not following consciously.


My experience with the catholic church hasn't shown it to be all that accepting at all. In fact it was one of the most judgmental religions I've come across.
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Does religion blind? It's like a recurring pleonasm...
In my opinion, religion can only blind. I'm not throwing myself in a stormy debate however, for I have learned that the WEPR is home to all kinds of people, including the ones saying; science is as blindful as religion, blablabla...

When I see youth thaught that the world was created in seven days, and later: that grown youth supporting this very fact unequivocally and without giving it any questionning, it does make think that religion blinds people.

Science attests facts with proof; you can't say that a devoted scientist is blindfolded, for he provides truths about existing matters and facts. The only difference between religion and science is proof from the moment this life is concerned.

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