My friend and I got into a conversation the other day, and he left me with the statement that Religion blinds people. He never explained what that meant, but I still want to know; based on your guys experiences, does Religion blind? And if so, how does it blind? Does it blind you from accepting all reality, or just another reality that you don't want to face?
I'm a christian. The whole point of being one is because God made all of us. It says in his word that He will come to earth again. Christians everyday are telling people about God. God is the light. The way out of the darkness.
I'm a christian. The whole point of being one is because God made all of us. It says in his word that He will come to earth again. Christians everyday are telling people about God. God is the light. The way out of the darkness.
BWAHAHAHAHA. Prove that your God made all of us, stop evangelizing like a bunch of pricks and stop comparing your deity to a flashlight and then we'll talk.
Actually, stormwolf may be right. According to some theories, created by Cern a few years back, there almost had to be a all powerful force around at the time of the big bang. The amount of energy present in it self could be considered to be a god. The energy there was enough to create Earth, the sun, and trillions of other planets, stars, and galaxies. Please do not ask me to show you a specific page from the Cern website, because they took it down, and it is nearly impossible to find a replica.
If you take the idea that the giant amount of energy was imbued with a spirit, or some type of awareness, then you get God. The idea of such a large amount of energy having an intelligence is not far fetched, becuase what are humans buy energy containded inside a skin body? If you also take into account that scientists have math proving the big bang all the way back to... Oh, Wait, you guys haven't come up with a mathematical way to prove time zero. the time that the big bang acctually happened. You can get close, but you haven't proven mathematically that the big bang happened. Couple that with the fact that a Catholic priest by the name of Georges Lemaitre in 1927 and was origionaly shot down by most scientists until Edwin Hubble scientifically proved that it could be possible two years later.
So if scientists have tried to prove time zero for, what, around 80 years now and haven't been able to, where does that leave you but with the option that there was a divine presence at the time of the Big Bang?
Are you trying to make a God of the gaps argument? Filling a crack in our scientific knowledge with God and trying to use it as proof of a divine beings existence?
It's an interesting subject about why we have religion. I need to read more up about it. However, I can say that religion was not created for power. It has evolved into that. I would think that religions and the belief in supernatural come from ancient cultures that had no other explanation for certain questions they might have had.
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I think I know what you are talking about. I used to frequent the CERN website often and read something about that. It is an interesting, but not new theory. However, stormwolf is not thinking in those terms. He is applying characteristics to his Christian deity.
It goes back to the ancient cultures and explanations. Light is good, it gives life, makes things grow, appears to take away the darkness. Darkness is bad, you can't see, etc. It's all about basic notions.
I think that stormwolf is a girl, I went to her profile.
Filling a crack in our scientific knowledge with God and trying to use it as proof of a divine beings existence?
You do the same thing to prove Christianity wrong. Don't do one thing and then expect someone else to not do it back to you. It is what we call "Getting a taste of your own medicine."
How do we do the same thing back? Scientists are constantly working to change, prove and adapt their theories and beliefs - religion is a stale thing that never changes.
Religion may not change, but the way you view it can. If you look at it from a primarily athiest standpoint then you probably will dislike it. However, if you look at it and try to look at all the conspiracy and mysticism surrounding it, it becomes much more than some dusty tomes that don't change. Try to remember that many people have revised and added to the bible, and that there are millions of people out there that try to understand why things are worded some ways and others aren't.
this quote is by Isaac Newton, a very famous scientist and part of the Invisble College, on the bible. "You read black where I read white." This statement leads many historians to belive that there are hidden stories and mysteries hidden in the white space inbtween the sentences in the KJV bible.
You do the same thing to prove Christianity wrong. Don't do one thing and then expect someone else to not do it back to you. It is what we call "Getting a taste of your own medicine."
I believe it was religion that threw the first stone? Anyway, it is because there are so many mysteries about the world and that religion explains it with magic that science steps in and zealously tries to understand it. These "mysteries" that you are trying to explain is still magic. If there is something written in the bible and within this text it explains "it says this happened with God, but it really happened this way with God", it is still fallible.
But this is not the thread to debate religion itself. I do see how it blinds people, with the text above.
To me, that is where the problem is valkery. You have a bunch of chiefs and not enough Indians. It's what led us to our current state of religion. A lot of people creating new sects and using "the word of God." This allows people to think they have the authority to change laws and condemn others who do not abide by what they think. Look at Fred Phelps.
I believe it was religion that threw the first stone?
Even if religion threw the first stone, which I am not entirely sure it did, shouldn't you take part in one of the great things in the bible and "turn the other cheek?"
I think religion doesn't blind all people but many. Look at the guys who flew planes into the WTC, look at the guys who are so pissed of if you draw Muhammad, look at the guys who desperately try to explain why dinosaur bones aren't older than 10'000 years old...
