I thought catholicism was the most like the original one that others split from and all you had to do to be a Christan is belive that Jesus was the son of God. As an atheist the whole thing seems a bit silly you both pray to the same God and and have the same holy book.
I thought Catholism was the original and most popular sect of Christianity. Also why do you use "you" in "You may not pray to Mary, but you do pray to Jesus." and "How can you not be?"? Are you suggesting that we're saying this and that we're christians? Elaborate please.
I thought Catholism was the original and most popular sect of Christianity. Also why do you use "you" in "You may not pray to Mary, but you do pray to Jesus." and "How can you not be?"? Are you suggesting that we're saying this and that we're christians? Elaborate please.
well, did you actually know that there are two different versions of the ten laws of moses? in the catolic version they made the law of the images less important...
If we're referring to Christianity as a whole, then why is "Christian" considered a branch of "Christianity"? That's like saying the two branches of brass instruments are "brass instruments" and "trombones" and thank the gods that's not true. Christianity has many branches, the top 5 I see most being Baptist, Catholic, Protestant, Methodist, and Orthodox. If "Christian" is seriously and honestly a branch from "Christianity", then let me know....
Pre Reformation: Catholicism is the only accepted form of Christianity. In essense being a Catholic and being a Christian are the same thing at this time.
Post Reformation: several sects gain individual recognition. The most prominent at the time is Lutherism, named after the priest Martin Luther.
But yea, Christians are first, then came Catholics
A common misconception. This is why we need to read our history books
Pre Reformation: Catholicism is the only accepted form of Christianity. In essense being a Catholic and being a Christian are the same thing at this time.
This is correct until the Great Schism (1054), after that there were two accepted branches: The Eastern (Greek/Byzantine) and the Western (Latin). Of course each branch did not accept the other. The East considered after that date the Pope (and all the Western Priests) a servant of the Devil, ergo the Western Christians weren't regarded as Christians at all.
well, the first christians hadn't the same liturgy as the catholics have now. christianity changed slowly, making the system of popes, priests, saint worshipping ect., then you had the schisma, and for a long time not many groups split off. till a few people (like calvin, luther, zwingli, ) started to read the bible agian, and thought the catholic way wasn't the right way. so they told other people about that, and that became the protestant church. (and besides, luther was a monk.)
Wouldn't the first Christians have been those who lived in the first century?
@Freakenstien I think he means what most people define as 'Christians'. I.e. corner church with a steeple etc. I believe it is more correctly defined as protestant or baptist.
If we're referring to Christianity as a whole, then why is "Christian" considered a branch of "Christianity"? That's like saying the two branches of brass instruments are "brass instruments" and "trombones" and thank the gods that's not true. Christianity has many branches, the top 5 I see most being Baptist, Catholic, Protestant, Methodist, and Orthodox. If "Christian" is seriously and honestly a branch from "Christianity", then let me know....
No one said that, I claimed Catholics are a subset of Christianity....
Alright so far as I know...this happened.
Jesus died, resurrected ( At least that's what the Christians believe).
Many different churches existed in the 1st AD, Arianism, Nestorianism, Catholicism, and in the end the Catholics won...
Now the Catholics go on unhindered for something like a millennium. Presumably, some quarrel started over minor petty issues, leading to the Orthodox and Catholic church taking on their more solid forms today after the Great Schism between the West, and the Byzantine Empire.
After a few more centuries, the Catholics split again into various Protestant groups. Which further split and split into tiny minor factions.
So yeah, that's my understanding, and based on that, Catholics are Christians.
