I do not know if this Topic has already came about, but, just in case it hasn't...
Anything Religious?
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there is a point that this "GOD" made us to be perfect then why dosent he stop eveil and suffering. Therefore this theory is herby proved correct if there is a god which i belive not why does he not stop bad.
there is a point that this "GOD" made us to be perfect then why dosent he stop eveil and suffering. Therefore this theory is herby proved correct if there is a god which i belive not why does he not stop bad.
The devil, as well as evil, was created by god, as was everything. Also, I guess you would agree with me when I say the devil is not perfect. So it would make no sense to let him free will; so why not making him shut up, or making him turn good again, or getting rid of him?
Oh, and this
You didn't answer my question; why make a physical world at all if it is anyway not perfect and has no influence on our afterlife?
was a question to you, you will find the initial question on top of page 3
well, if you want an answer of someone who has read the bible, (NBG translation, groot nieuws bijbel, statenvertaling, so no, not the mormon bible, and not the apocrific books) you can ask me too.
You didn't answer my question; why make a physical world at all if it is anyway not perfect and has no influence on our afterlife?
that's not all right,
Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. 5 And whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me.
There is a lot of talk of why the devil and if he is really almighty why not just make everything perfect. Would you read a super-long book with no plot, excitement, or anything other than people just being happy? Probably not. God is orchestrating a large scale story with the end result being a victory over the devil. On earth, we are preparing for heaven. God gave us a choice to choose evil in the Garden of Eden, and we chose wrong. Now He is restoring us back to perfection in a great adventure.
Would you read a super-long book with no plot, excitement, or anything other than people just being happy? Probably not.
If the bible was true I don't think there would be a shortage of people reading it because as they did they would constantly feel the presence of your god. Now if we look at the bible as a work of historic fiction it actually makes sense, it has war, romance, and the world's most powerful antagonist. It also has a deity that had a problem with stepping in his people's crap in the middle of the night.
God gave us a choice to choose evil in the Garden of Eden, and we chose wrong.
I don't know about you but I never had any say in that decision.
I don't know about you but I never had any say in that decision.
I know, and I didn't either. I have a hard time explaining that part, but I think that if any ignorant person, such as Adam and Eve, were placed in the same circumstance, we would choose the same.
know, and I didn't either. I have a hard time explaining that part, but I think that if any ignorant person, such as Adam and Eve, were placed in the same circumstance, we would choose the same.
Ignorant? I know right from wrong, and I don't believe in any god or subscribe to any moral code; it's intrinsic to know right form wrong.
And furthermore why would god choose to keep them ignorant? That doesn't make any sense.
We as humans believe that God created us perfectly.. and in reality, he did. God gave us free will and intelligence. With the being understood, we can then come to the conclusion that God is perfect for giving us the option or opportunity to believe in him, hence free will and intelligence.
Yes - a slight variation on Plantinga's Free Will defense...
Now - let me ask you a question - What empirical evidence do you have for a God?
Also explain how, with a complete knowledge of the physics of this universe, we would not be able to predict the future?
Never be open about your political beliefs entirely, because you are bound be get hit by a wall of text concerning it, and every single sentence you make, will be held under a magnifying glass.
samy- what I meant by ignorant is that if were living as the first human ever to exist and there was no evil yet in the world, you would be ignorant. We have a different perspective than Adam or Eve would have had. Maybe ignorant isn't the right word, more like innocent.
Maybe ignorant isn't the right word, more like innocent.
So, they were punished for doing something that they barely new were wrong and had no idea why it was wrong? Didn't god create us curious? And wouldn't that mean that it's his fault that Adam and Eve sinned?
