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PracticalManiac
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It's funny how your almost never born atheist, you become atheist. I personally think the whole religion thing is far fetched. Why cant we just be dead after we die? Why does there HAVE to be an afterlife? Dont get me wrong i respect others decisions, I just don't believe in it, who's with me? I'm going to be some grass fertilizer one day And home to some maggots + worms.

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Oremoose
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If I was god, 24/7 party time up in heaven, every ones invited!


Good news buddy that's reality. But there is hell because people don't want the party because to join the party they must recognize their sin (i.e.their offenses against God).But some people are to stuck up to say that.

And another thing, when the religion first started, was it not started by people not all that educated? I re call them burning women on sticks for silly things such as being a "witch".


Yes,God chose to start his Church through some uneducated men (see the Gospel of Matthew, Chapter 16 verse 18).
And Yes in the Churches past the people made stupid mistakes, Come on there only human. But look at the Holocaust the Natizes kill millions of innocent people,in the name of atheism, just because they were "inferior".


Maybe you could try to think out of the box for just a second and imagine what it would be like if your god was not real. Or is that a sin or something? idk lol.


I do at times (and that is not a sin) and all I see is a pointless life that gives me nothing greater to live for than myself. And a life only centered on me and my desires would be pretty awful because there would be no satisfaction just more desire for more for myself regardless of what others need.

Lastly I'm pretty Hardcore Christian and right now I'm relaxing kicking my feet surfing the net and there is no sin in that.
HahiHa
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But look at the Holocaust the Natizes kill millions of innocent people,in the name of atheism, just because they were "inferior".

How do you dare say nazism was in the name of atheism? Atheists aren't even a united group of people like religious groups.

I do at times (and that is not a sin) and all I see is a pointless life that gives me nothing greater to live for than myself. And a life only centered on me and my desires would be pretty awful because there would be no satisfaction just more desire for more for myself regardless of what others need.

It may seem pointless for you, but it is absolutely not pointless for me. It's just a way to see things; I don't center my life around my desires, and I think if there's no fixed goal in life that leaves you the great opportunity to fix your own goals and not just live following your instincts.
PracticalManiac
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Wow, there are no facts to prove any of this but fact upon fact upon fact disproving any of it is real. Facts proving evolution. How can you just blindly follow?

It's like you want so desperatly to keep on living after you die you would do anything just to believe in it. No matter what silly rules you had to follow.

Say jesus never happened but it happened in todays time. Would you still believe some crazy guy to be the son of god? Would you blindly follow what the guy said and worship him because he said he died for your sins? No, you would think the guy was absolutely crazy and had a death wish.

I know i'm bible bashing, whatever, not like anything i say is going to get through to your "blind leap of faith"

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for you religious people saying "if we all die and nothing happens whats the point in life???" DOES IT ALWAYS HAVE TO BE ABOUT YOU??? i mean come on! we live to support our future generations and procede in technology, knowledge, better life styles! of course theres no GOD! if a "god" created the universe then "god" never existed because all matter that excists now, later, and before all began at the START of the universe... and always will be...

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(see the Gospel of Matthew, Chapter 16 verse 18).

See Pamela Gay's explanation of Scientific things first. Thanks.

I'm not going to read or watch jack of what you have to offer because I would do so with an open mind. Even if I could sit one of you down and watch something that supports the Big Bang you'd just reply with "God made Earth 6,000 years ago, the end".

Come on there only human.

Wrong. They're "God's creation", which means that either God is an evil prick who wants people to suffer from themselves or is just an idiot who done it wrong.
Even now people know how to raise kids better than how God must have.

No, God didn't do anything for it - he doesn't do these "little things" people believe he does. He's sitting back with a bag of popcorn and looking at Afghanistan, if anything.

But look at the Holocaust the Natizes kill millions of innocent people,in the name of atheism, just because they were "inferior".

If you're religious, I hope you commit suicide and go to Hell.
Don't spread this obvious bull around that Nazi's killed Jews because of their Religion. A partial reason was because Hitlers mother died and her doctor was Jewish.

Also, Mein Kampf probably explains more of it in ways I can't fathom.
Your argument is rediculous, and you are a retard, to put it mildly.

Oh and to be fair, how aren't religious people inferior to those of Atheism? Atheism shows knowledge, logic and independence. Religion has all their **** handed to them so they can be lazy.

It's a bedtime fable, to be put simply.

would be pretty awful because there would be no satisfaction just more desire for more for myself regardless of what others need.

No, that's just you believing you can't do things on your own. I spend things to a minimum, I don't ask for things, I rarely accept things and I'm fine. If I took it all then I would be even more grateful than what I am now. Basically, all you are saying is you are selfish, and don't try to cover it up, because there's no need.

You just go to show that religious people can't make it through the day without asking God to help them through. It's worse than asking your parents when you're 23. Why? Well God is probably just a figment of your imagination that you take seriously, your parents can provide morale support that isn't that soft cushie feeling that you believe is The Ghost hugging you.

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Wrong. They're "God's creation", which means that either God is an evil prick who wants people to suffer from themselves or is just an idiot who done it wrong.
Even now people know how to raise kids better than how God must have.
People aren't perfect. Considering that most priests have molested little boys, this could be taken as fact. God could have saved those little boys, but he didn't. Why? Maybe just to make a point that our current religious system is corrupt and destroying our religion as we know it...
for you religious people saying "if we all die and nothing happens whats the point in life???" DOES IT ALWAYS HAVE TO BE ABOUT YOU??? i mean come on! we live to support our future generations and procede in technology, knowledge, better life styles! of course theres no GOD! if a "god" created the universe then "god" never existed because all matter that excists now, later, and before all began at the START of the universe... and always will be...
This a completely ignorant statement please revise your typing so that you don't look like an idiot next time. It's NOT about us, but about getting everyone we can into heaven. God is also OMNIPRESENT which means that he is pretty much in another dimension. Therefore, the matter in that universe does not have any connection with the matter in this universe....
If you're religious, I hope you commit suicide and go to Hell.
Don't spread this obvious bull around that Nazi's killed Jews because of their Religion. A partial reason was because Hitlers mother died and her doctor was Jewish.
And most of it was due to the fact that Jews were successful in business at the time AND Hitler was denied from an art institution. What else was he going to do besides blame those who were successful?
You just go to show that religious people can't make it through the day without asking God to help them through. It's worse than asking your parents when you're 23. Why? Well God is probably just a figment of your imagination that you take seriously, your parents can provide morale support that isn't that soft cushie feeling that you believe is The Ghost hugging you.
I ask God for assistance, and not "to do everything for me". God and every one of his followers knew that God didn't just do all the work. Moses did all the work that he knew had to be done, and the Hebrews got out of Egypt and claimed the Promised Land. God assisted them here and there but DID NOT do everything. This is true for modern times as well. If I want to do good on a test, I ask God if he can help. Just because I ask for help DOESN'T mean that God will do the test for me.
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People aren't perfect. Considering that most priests have molested little boys, this could be taken as fact.

First - this isn't true.
Second - this doesn't support your claim that people aren't perfect at all.
Just because I ask for help DOESN'T mean that God will do the test for me.

Just wondering, why do you believe in God?
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First - this isn't true.
Second - this doesn't support your claim that people aren't perfect at all.
What about the fact that we've all sinned?
Just wondering, why do you believe in God?
I believe in God because God is just and true. There may not be a lot of physical evidence of him, but that does not deter my belief in him. If you knew the situations that my family is dealing with, then maybe you'd believe in him as well. Also, science is full of theories about how the universe started, so there is a lot of ambiguity in there as well. Not to say that all science is a lie, just a lot of it doesn't add up to good.
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Well, I had a quite bad disease, and I'm alive. Obviously, this don't enforce my belief in god, but totally annihilates it, since the god that christians keep describing wouldn't have done that to me.

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Also, science is full of theories about how the universe started, so there is a lot of ambiguity in there as well. Not to say that all science is a lie, just a lot of it doesn't add up to good.

Ya know that theories are based on facts, that science is steadily gathering facts, and that certain theories are more and more backed up over time? Personally, science makes a lot of sense, more than religion.
HahiHa
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From your usage of the word theory, me thinks you know not what it means.

Care to be more precise, or tell me how you use it?
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I really don't like people who claim to be Christian and then do a bunch of terrible stuff. They actually end up doing worse stuff because they think that they can get away with it just because they've "become Christian", ignoring the fact that you have to ACT like a Christian, according to the Bible, not according to one's own set of ethics.
And Gaboloth, the Bible never said that being a Christian would always be easy.

PracticalManiac
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I believe in God because God is just and true.


Coming from the guy named mysteriousmexican666, what the eff? lol.

It's like saying the sole reason you don't **** people is not because it's wrong but because you don't want to go to jail.


I tip my hat to you sir.
HahiHa
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It's your definition I asked for, but that's okay. Well, I really don't see where your problem lies; I agree with that definition and what I wrote, while being not as detailed and accurate, doesn't contradict it in the slightest.

PracticalManiac
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A scientific theory is used as a plausible general principle or body of principles offered to explain a phenomenon


Dont you need facts to make it plausible? Just throwing random ideas out their usually is not very plausible.
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