It's funny how your almost never born atheist, you become atheist. I personally think the whole religion thing is far fetched. Why cant we just be dead after we die? Why does there HAVE to be an afterlife? Dont get me wrong i respect others decisions, I just don't believe in it, who's with me? I'm going to be some grass fertilizer one day And home to some maggots + worms.
Killing women and children, enslaving and implied **** of young girls, and that's just two verses. Numbers 31:17-18 (KJV) Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
Oh, and also, if someone obviously warns you not to do something, and then you do it anyway, if you get hurt, it's your fault for not listening. I.e. someone tells you not to run with scissors. You do anyway, and hurt yourself. Do you have a right to get mad at them? No. They told you not to do it, and you wouldn't listen.
But in this case it's more like you run with the scissors and the person who warned you breaks your fingers for doing so. So yes we can lay blame for that.
What about all innocent lifeforms that were killed in the flood, was that also just?
The text actually reads, 144,000 jewish males, untainted by woman, will ascend into heaven. So unless you got your **** clipped and are kosher, you are hellbound.
Can you please provide a specific verse?
What about other religions with different gods? Are you punished due to your beliefs. Are other religions wrong? and if they are why are they and if they are what makes you think your religion is any better to another outsider deciding that it's wrong.
These people have been led astray and in many cases, such as the Chinese, were isolated off from God's word. Since God knows these special cases, I hardly believe that he would just send them to hell.
That like you have to agree and be friends with your family no matter the differences of opinion that arise or how horrible they are. Or staying married no matter how badly it's going. Such relationships don't work if you force then and this very much seems like the relationship with your God. Like if you had a kid and after a few years you became less close due to random factors but instead of accepting the difference and continuing being a good parent you punish them and throw them out.
What if the kid refuses to get help to lead them to the right path and does not accept their parents suggestions? Isn't that what most atheists are?
How do you explain the KKK? This christian group, whose mission statement is "Welcome to the Ku Klux Klan. Bringing a Message of Hope and Deliverance to White Christian America!"
Nice move on skipping my and Mage's questions. [/quote]These people have been led astray and in many cases, such as the Chinese, were isolated off from God's word. Since God knows these special cases, I hardly believe that he would just send them to hell.[quote] They was led in the wrong way by a man, right? An evil man that wanted to gain power by creating a fake religion, right? ...alright. But why the bleep god created those men, or at least why haven't he stopped them?
These people have been led astray and in many cases, such as the Chinese, were isolated off from God's word. Since God knows these special cases, I hardly believe that he would just send them to hell.
Man Christians have an answer for everything, and every answer is as pathetic as the last.
What if the kid refuses to get help to lead them to the right path and does not accept their parents suggestions? Isn't that what most atheists are?
This is silly, you are implying that atheists are just going to lead bad lives or something. I do accept my parents suggestions... The point is I now have a right to create my own path, does not mean its wrong. Why does Christianity have to be the right path? It sounds like your brainwashed or something.
What if the kid refuses to get help to lead them to the right path and does not accept their parents suggestions? Isn't that what most atheists are?
What are the parents in your analogy? Christians? The church? god? Seriously this is silly; christians and atheists, and everybody else, are all kids, orphans (meaning, never had parents, not lost parents), with the sole difference that some follow the education of their imaginary parents.
How do you dare say Nazism was in the name of atheism? Atheists aren't even a united group of people like religious groups.
I know atheists aren't even a united group of people. But the Nazis dislike all thing religious related so in some way they were atheists and thus committing actions our friend PracticalManiac was bring up against the Church that is Spilling innocent blood.
I'm not going to read or watch jack of what you have to offer because I would do so with an open mind. Even if I could sit one of you down and watch something that supports the Big Bang you'd just reply with "God made Earth 6,000 years ago, the end".
I was merely siting the point in the Bible that speaks of Jesus giving the job to start his church to Peter. And I do and know many Christians how believe the big bang and know that the Creation story is a analogy for how God created the world.
People aren't perfect.
Thank you for making my point clear.
Considering that most priests have molested little boys
I would say a few not most. the percent of awful priests that have molested is a lot smaller than that of the priests who are virtuous and kind.
Atheism shows knowledge, logic and independence. Religion has all their **** handed to them so they can be lazy.
Not true my friend there are many men and women who have (See Thomas Aquinas and John Paul II) and continually study and logically continue to develop the faith (Benedict XVI).
I know atheists aren't even a united group of people. But the Nazis dislike all thing religious related so in some way they were atheists and thus committing actions our friend PracticalManiac was bring up against the Church that is Spilling innocent blood.
Second post, page 11. And there where more if you search a bit.
Oh, and did you know that the Nazi emblem (Swastika) is a symbol "widely used in Indian religions"?
These people have been led astray and in many cases, such as the Chinese, were isolated off from God's word. Since God knows these special cases, I hardly believe that he would just send them to hell.
What if you were lead astray, also why would an omnipotent being isolate people from his world. Does he like one race more than another?
What if the kid refuses to get help to lead them to the right path and does not accept their parents suggestions? Isn't that what most atheists are?
What makes an parents suggestion right? Why can't the kid choose for themselves as an unique individual in this world? Isn't conformity and baseless facts what religion is?
What are the parents in your analogy? Christians? The church? god? Seriously this is silly; christians and atheists, and everybody else, are all kids, orphans (meaning, never had parents, not lost parents), with the sole difference that some follow the education of their imaginary parents.
What are parents in YOUR analogy? Atheists had a parent, the greatest of all parents IMO, but you turned away from Him.
No, that is called animal cruelty you sadistic jackhole.
God created Evil. God destroyed evil to show mankind. That is a very close description of a type of arsonist found amongst firefighters. They would set a fire and then "arrive" on scene to save the day.
It's an analogy and I hate how you ignorant enough to try to twist my words away from that. You are acting childish by doing so. God didn't perform false heroism like the example in your analogy. The message he delivered was "This is what happens to the wicked" not "Oh, lookie here, I just blew up two cities, I'm a hero!".
cite your source, because last I knew, they were exterminating the jews in the name of god.
Do you have any proof that God actually told them to exterminate jews? No. Just because I say I'm going to perform an action "in the name of God" does not mean that he actually approves of my actions.
I would say a few not most. the percent of awful priests that have molested is a lot smaller than that of the priests who are virtuous and kind.
But those priests that did molest boys were released scott free, for the most part. The Catholic system is corrupt, to say the least.
Also, your god is supposed to be the loving, forgiving one, so why compare god with nature?
Isn't God suppose to be in or at least have control of nature? So wouldn't any natural death of lifeforms due to natural selection be on God?
No.... His followers will be saved and those who have turned away will be punished.
Seems rather pointless unless God is just a petty jerk.
These people have been led astray and in many cases, such as the Chinese, were isolated off from God's word. Since God knows these special cases, I hardly believe that he would just send them to hell.
A priest is telling an Eskimo about the bible and sin and how he must be saved. After the priest was finished the Eskimo asked "If I never heard of any of this would I still be at risk of going to hell?" The priest replies "Of course not!" Then the Eskimo turns and looks at the priest "Then why did you tell me?"
But the Nazis dislike all thing religious related so in some way they were atheists and thus committing actions our friend PracticalManiac was bring up against the Church that is Spilling innocent blood.
We already pointed out how that is not the case, might what to do a bit more reading on this thread.
What if you were lead astray, also why would an omnipotent being isolate people from his world. Does he like one race more than another?
How the fudge did you get that from what I said? NO. If the Chinese had not been isolated, then nifty inventions like paper and compasses would have been invented much later than they had, slowing down human development by far.
What makes an parents suggestion right? Why can't the kid choose for themselves as an unique individual in this world? Isn't conformity and baseless facts what religion is?
In many, if not all, cases the kid who goes astray ends up doing exactly what the parent wanted to prevent. Shows how much the kid actually knows.
What are parents in YOUR analogy? Atheists had a parent, the greatest of all parents IMO, but you turned away from Him.
Going back to God as an analogy to being parents, then it would be more like growing up and moving out instead of continuing to live in mom and dads basement the rest of our lives.
The message he delivered was "This is what happens to the wicked" not "Oh, lookie here, I just blew up two cities, I'm a hero!".
Even the infants were wicked, or did these two cities have 0% population growth? Also were the livestock of these two cities wicked as well?
