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Wafflesquad
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What is nothing? Empty space is a vacuum, or a void. Nothing is also an idea. And in math, 0 represents nothing, but it's still a number. A number is something; so is an idea. So if nothing is nothing, then is it a word?

(If anyone says that nothing is "the presence of absence", include an explanation.)

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Dragonblaze052
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Very well, Mage. I completely forgot about nonstandard matter and energy fields. What about neutrinoes? They posses no mass, exert no light and have no energy. Would they count as nothing?

Paarfam
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Nothing was the lapse in time we will never come to understand, only more powerful beings have the brain power to understand what nothing is.

mysteriousmexican666
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Very well, Mage. I completely forgot about nonstandard matter and energy fields. What about neutrinoes? They posses no mass, exert no light and have no energy. Would they count as nothing?
I actually have a book on those! When I can I'll copy down info on them... A more reliable source than wiki, IMO
Dragonblaze052
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Wiki is a generally reliable source, it is just sometimes messed up. Last I checked, I heard 98% of edits were made by 2% of users.

lightcrux
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They posses no mass, exert no light and have no energy. Would they count as nothing?


Neutrinos have mass and they possess energy. Every system in the universe possesses energy. If neutrinos possessed no energy they would grossly violate the laws of physics.
Dragonblaze052
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Ahh... I misunderstood what a neutrino was when it was first explained to me.

thepyro222
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There can be no such thing as nothingness... for that to happen, an area would have to be completely void of absolutely everything, from people to subatomic particles, worse than outer space. This obviously isn't possible, but even if it did, then the term "nothing" would be irrelevant because there wouldn't be something to call it "nothing." And if we are calling it nothing, then it is something, because it is defined. Philosophy is great

Dragonblaze052
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So by your definition, if I define God, he is something?

thepyro222
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So by your definition, if I define God, he is something?


I'm not getting into a religious debate
Dragonblaze052
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I didn't mean it like that.

If I defined the Loch Ness monster, it is something?

Moegreche
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And if we are calling it nothing, then it is something, because it is defined. Philosophy is great


Philosophy is great, provided you know how to use it. You're claim, then, is that if something is defined then it is "something." But this is a conflation of words with their respective concepts.

If I defined the Loch Ness monster, it is something?


What do we mean here by "something"? If by 'something' you mean an object to which we can ostensibly refer, then no, the Loch Ness monster is not something.
But this can't be all there is. An idea is something, isn't it? What about the Pythagorean Theorem? Certainly that's something!
Perhaps all we mean by 'something' is that there is a concept to which we can refer. Frege might put it that there is a 'sense' to the word or a 'referent'.
And here is where the point about conflating the concept with the thing comes in. If we're talking about 'nothingness' we can understand the concept using set theory or formal logic. But that doesn't make the objects which define the set of nothing (of which there are none) things.
Einfach
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^that's your answer.

MageGrayWolf
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^that's your answer.


A blank post is something.
Einfach
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A blank post is something.

Really, nothing can only really exist if dimensions don't exist.
mdv96
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0 Kelvin is as close as we know is possible
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Correct if im wrong

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