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harryoconnor
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Recently in an assembly in my school about the Easter holidays we where given leaflets from this evangelical organization. It told us we should believe in the Christian God or we would fail to rule ourselves and die. Do you think this acceptable in schools? Should Religious schools be allowed? And how should religion be taught in schools?

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Kyouzou
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I was referring specifically to the US, because of the Establishment Clause, as for time period, do the classes educate on both modern and ancient inferences of the religions or just ancient?

loloynage2
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Oh, I thought that you where just talking about US too, but I wanted to show what Canada has.

Oh, and I can't be for sure, but I think it's only ancient for level 1 and then ancient and modern for level 2.

Kyouzou
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I know it was available when I lived in Kenya, and my cousin took the class in England, but we both attended private schools at the time, so my viewpoint is biased. Personally I would love to take a religious studies class as an elective rather than waiting until I go to a college. Then again I feel the same way about so many classes, i.e. Philosophy, Ethics, Anthropology (although I supposed Modern Global Studies could account for this), etc.

qwerty1011
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Religion is the parent's choice until the child is 18 years old, then they have full freedom in their religion, or anything else for that matter. Religion is a good thing to be taught in schools as to increase religious tolerance and reduce ignorance, but it shouldn't be crammed down your throat. Basically, its good if it's being taught, but schools shouldn't have a say in what religion you are.


So until you are eighteen you can't think about religion? You have confusingly stupid logic.

Yeah why not. You might want to pick up the Constitution sometime... it's a fascinating read.


Well I don't know about america but in Britain faith schools can be better than state schools sometimes so parents of different religions have to pretend to be christian to get in which is wrong. And america was founded as a nation with no religious obligations.

I don't think there is much point in teaching ancient religions since that would be better done in history and it won't really help much in later life while learning about current religions might.
iMogwai
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Religion is the parent's choice until the child is 18 years old, then they have full freedom in their religion, or anything else for that matter.


I guess a parent can control what their child is allowed to do or not, but it's both unethical and impossible for them to choose what their child believes in. Just like they can't decide whether he prefers apples or bananas, or which music he likes, if he's straight or gay, or what his favourite movie is. His/her opinion has to be his/her opinion, regardless of his age.
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I am Jewish and I used to go to a Jewish day school. It was actually better than most public schools, and we got a better education because of it. By the 4th grade, I was doing beginner's algebra! We also learned a foreign language (hebrew), and tolerance by connecting with various religious communities not necessarily of our denomination. Saying that, kids in public schools don't get the same experience. If religion was to be taught in public schools, then it should be taught in high school, as an elective only after all required classes were completed.

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^^Why? What's wrong with religion taught in primary school. And just because your faith school is better it doesn't mean all are. In some Christian schools they have science lessons based on stuff like noah's arc.

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qwerty, I never said that all faith schools are better. And the problem with religion being taught in primary schools is that the kids can be too young to completely understand it. And by teaching it I mean going in-depth discussing different religious texts.

qwerty1011
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qwerty, I never said that all faith schools are better. And the problem with religion being taught in primary schools is that the kids can be too young to completely understand it. And by teaching it I mean going in-depth discussing different religious texts.


They don't show you bible texts they tell you like bible stories and stuff and then you have to like do how they worship etc. And then from yr 6-7 onwards you actually look at holy books and talk about the metaphors and philosophy behind it.
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in engalnd we do religious studies where we study many diffret and their cultures its actually very interesting and informative, until i chose to continue it this year and all we are learning about is modern day christianity and since my new teacher is a christian it feels more like im going to church than learning anything

especailly as whenever i try to discuss a contradiction in the bible or something she steers the topic away because i know more than her

qwerty1011
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^^Doesn't she have to follow the curriculum? My RE teacher sometimes complains how strictly he has to follow the curriculum.

sprooschicken
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yeahs she does but the curriculum for this year is all christianity, and as i said shes chroistsian so she oiften just uses it as an exscuse to preach to me

ZipperedVenus42
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There is religion in every school. Just look at the Pledge of Allegiance.

darnell13
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There is religion in every school. Just look at the Pledge of Allegiance.


That is not the argument. That would be like saying everyone who likes money is religious because it says "In God We Trust".
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Even if we do have the Pledge of Allegiance, that was not incorporated until very recently, some speculating because of the Red Scares that were occurring post World War II. Even if that was implemented, it violates Separation of Church and State, which is why no one can (hopefully) detain or punish you for not pledging allegiance to the God area, much less the entirety of the Pledge at all. Things like the Pledge, the "In God We Trust" captions on coined money, laws forbidding sale of alcohol on Sundays, and various Christian statues planted around federal lands must be rid of, in order to not make hypocrites of ourselves.

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