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harryoconnor
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Recently in an assembly in my school about the Easter holidays we where given leaflets from this evangelical organization. It told us we should believe in the Christian God or we would fail to rule ourselves and die. Do you think this acceptable in schools? Should Religious schools be allowed? And how should religion be taught in schools?

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dair5
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I think it's terrible that they make little kids do it. Most not even knowing what they're saying. They're making a promise and don't even know it.

Nurvana
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That is not the argument. That would be like saying everyone who likes money is religious because it says "In God We Trust".


No, you are wrong. You see, by saying, "everyone who likes money is religious because it says, 'in God We Trust'", you are basing those people's emotional convictions on their like for money. When someone says that, "there is religion in every school; just look that the Pledge of Allegiance", they are simply stating the relationship between those words and religion, and pointing out that it exists in schools. I do not agree with Zippered, but that is a poor analogy.
darnell13
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No, you are wrong. You see, by saying, "everyone who likes money is religious because it says, 'in God We Trust'", you are basing those people's emotional convictions on their like for money. When someone says that, "there is religion in every school; just look that the Pledge of Allegiance", they are simply stating the relationship between those words and religion, and pointing out that it exists in schools. I do not agree with Zippered, but that is a poor analogy.


You are right. I should have said something like there is religion in money. That might not have even been a good way to do it but it would have been closer.
qwerty1011
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There is religion in every school. Just look at the Pledge of Allegiance.


No, my school doesn't favour any religion. If it was Christian or something we'd have to sing hyms and stuff.
Freakenstein
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Qwerty, those are extra steps that schools may do if they have religious emphasis. I'm not sure if religious schools actually do that or not, so I'll just leave it at that. However, federally public schools have "under God" inside the pledge, which leaves room for controversy, because there are those, including me, that believe it violates Separation of Church and State, as well as the standard Freedom of Religion clause.

ZipperedVenus42
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"there is religion in every school; just look that the Pledge of Allegiance", they are simply stating the relationship between those words and religion, and pointing out that it exists in schools.


The Pledge forces students to state every day that there is in fact a God, and that he is "above" our nation. The original pledge did not include this statement before; the only reason we added it was to "brag" to the Soviets that we had something that commonly united us.

The school does not need to point out that religion exists to us, and definitely does not need to make us announce every morning that our nation is united under a theist principle.
CrimsonVamp
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In my humble opinion, they should teach all the "main" religions in schools (the main religons beings those that have the biggest number of followers spread all over the globe. You can't teach everything, for time reasons), or none at all.

Teaching only one religion only makes the students more close minded, which is the opposite of what a school should be doing.

ZipperedVenus42
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Teaching only one religion only makes the students more close minded, which is the opposite of what a school should be doing.


Teaching religion in general makes the students more close-minded. How about instead of teaching religion, we teach science? Then the children will be able to make their own choice about which religion they choose.
Asherlee
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How about teaching religion like we teach science?


Fixed it for you.

Religion can be taught from an objective view point. This is how it is taught to people who major or minor (like myself) in Religion during college. Most of the time, Religion majors are not religious.
CrimsonVamp
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Teaching religion in general makes the students more close-minded. How about instead of teaching religion, we teach science? Then the children will be able to make their own choice about which religion they choose.


I don't know where you live but in Italy we do teach science. And a child cannot make a choice if he/she is taught no religion at all or only one.
qwerty1011
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Science and religion are both taught. And the are schools outside of America you know. They can be religiously impartial.

Maverick4
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My school teaches both. Evolution in the science class, and major Religions in the Social Sciences. My school also offers a (OT) Bible Class, and a Eastern Religion Class.

Only problem I have is that I had 10 points taken off a test grade for not capitalizing 'gods' when refering to other religions. :/

I'm fine with it, as long as the school doesn't try to impregnate any students with any beliefs. I may disagree with you, but I still need to respect your belief.

sprooschicken
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my school ( teacher and head master ) try to do exactly that, its digusting and irritating

hazthebezz
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i believe religion should be taught in high schools, when an individual is more open minded and know how to judge. however, the religious teaching should not be biased. as for lower primary schools, extra classes on religion should be held to children whose parent want them to have a basic understanding in religion.

it is good to learn about what others believes. they are a few scholars that i know (most are muslims) who even memorize every other religious books. so, it is funny to see the debate between people who dont know much about their own religion against the scholars.

qwerty1011
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I have just started high school and I can judge that religion is all stupid as it has no proof whatsoever. And I think that primary schools should give a basic grounding in what religions believe as that gets the boring bits over with and in secondary school you can start doing philosophy and make it interesting.

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