O_o maybe maybe not... who knows... that's the fun (boxxy reference).... but yes you would be correct
Took me long enough.
I'm new so I don't even know them.
You soon will, I hope
*sigh* *facepalms*
I know there isn't much difference but different words change the way you think about them (for instance, arguing and debating), an assessment is in the word - you're being assessed.
A test? It could be anything, a relaxed test, an experiment made for theorycrafting, I don't know - just a test!
But yeah, sighs and facepalms won't cut it.
1) Ah but atheists sit here all day trying to disprove him. Why, I ask?
That's the wrong way to go about it. Have I? No, and you're talking about this with me, so that statement is invalid because you should not judge the worth of ones argument based on those who stand beside him on it.
At least in this case.
2) Because, we wish, in our terrible arrogance and evil, to save our brethren from eternal ****ation. What do atheists think happen to theists who contradict their beliefs? I dunno, I suppose that automatically makes them bigots and morons and all that. I've seen it all. Atheists aren't very creative.
Your "****ation" is not proven, you're leading people to being unable to fend for themselves and to be distrustful of other theories surrounding the existance of the universe.
No, you're just insulting Atheists as a defense mechanism, bigots and morons for contradicting ones beliefs? You didn't even have the decency to show where you had gotten that from and then proceeded to tell us we're not creative?
I would show you what I've done in my free time, to develop mostly my English skills but some of it is intimate so I'm just gonna go to
my Blog.I wouldn't like feedback, it's not updated and I do it in my free time. But hey - that's about 50 hours of work in my free time to get better English skills, other than that, I have 2 stories, C++, and an editor to learn more of and make with. So hey, I'm obviously not very creative and creativity clearly shows itself on a FORUM.
Right.
It's because if one theist posts on one of these religious threads then they are going to be attacked by ten atheists.
And the argument about it gets old very quickly. There are about... eight religion vs whatever/Christianity FTW/Atheism FTW threads on the first two-three pages of the sub-forum.
So most people that do visit the WEPR section are atheists. While the theists don't comment in the religious threads much because of the onslaught of atheists that await them.
True, can you blame us, though?
If they're too afraid to come back up their claims that God is real then (and this is quoting someone from another thread) it shows how weak their religion is.
Hey! I feel offended! I'd try to argue with you, but I can't think of a clever reply...
lol.
in some of the theist's defense... some of the atheists have openly admitted to trolling and saying things just to get people mad. I would think that some of the people recognize some of that and just quit dropping by... even tho some may very well start to question their faiths as was said earlier...
it sometimes devolves from mature conversation to obvious trolling which is passed off as a question or statement that they get mad over when the people they were trolling get mad at it.
I'm just going to say that whilst I used to be a bit like that, I'm not anymore and if you want a debate on Atheism vs Religion then fine, I'm not gonna resort to those cheap tactics.
Also, Highfire, not to call you out, you answered only one of my questions. Same with the rest of you.
I'm gonna call everyone out on not answering my insanely long post on page 11-12 I think.
Sorry kirby, what was your question?
Not to take sides but it SEEMS to me its a lot of the atheists on this forum that have such a hard time viewing a subject from the other person's perspective. Its as if they don't even try. Logic or science in general can be as blinding as religion can. WHY cant you not see something from another person's point of view when they've clarified it many times again and again.
I do attempt to, I can't do it to a great extent but the argument could probably lie in the worth of logic and reason to different people - or the worth of it in comparison to faith.
I've honestly gone over which I think is the better route, and I'm POSITIVE that non-religious beliefs is the best one.
I sort of agree with Kirby on the idea.
Indeed, plus I've attempted to make the "I know how you feel" speech, because in some ways I do but hey, I don't think they've even replied to it and the hostility I'm receiving from the theists in this thread is very unsettling, to say the least.
Also, this is the internet, I think it's safe to assume that many of us are younger than the average american, and are more in tune with science/modernism than the average american. It's not like your average pastor plays armorgames, so the demographics are a little in their favor
Lol, indeed.
Most of us where at one point actually in the mother's shoes. We have been there, done that, and I personally find no reason to regress back to it.
I'll elaborate on my own behalf.
Whilst religion can be beneficial, it's not at your own personal expense. With science (or rather without religion) you're essentially forced to work out everything like morality, ethics and code of thinking by yourself (I done this at the age of 6), you can explore new ways to better money income or state of mind, without having anything (with exception to the law) hold you back. You don't need to have a reason for everything - just those that bare consequence (which, posting on here does bare consequence). There is little that you are not allowed to do that anyone else is and you've the capability to look at other things from the eyes of yourself, assess it as yourself and you probably won't doubt yourself (in terms of how much of you is you) either.
Are you saying that religion is illogical?
Illogical is like "unreasonable", it doesn't sound as good as "Not using logic", at least in my opinion.
This goes to the previous point of test / assessment.
Plus, darnell13, it'd help the opposing team if you opened up something for them to say after your post, "Would you say faith is the basis of religion?" or something, give them an option to go back on that is reasonable. It helps the debates go smoothly and shows, as previously mentioned, an understanding of their side (especially if you are correct).
Just thought I'd point those out, because please let me be clear - I debate so we can boil things down and come down to a single conclusion that hopefully is not completely single-sided, but more of a hybrid of the positive traits of each side.
If that makes sense.
- H
