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Graham
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This is the compiling of little interesting tidbits in a Christian's bible.

Source: BibleGateway.com

(New International Version ©2011)

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The New International Version (NIV) is a completely original translation of the Bible developed by more than one hundred scholars working from the best available Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek texts.

The initial vision for the project was provided by a single individual â" an engineer working with General Electric in Seattle by the name of Howard Long. Long was a lifelong devotee of the King James Version, but when he shared it with his friends he was distressed to find that it just didnât connect. Long saw the need for a translation that captured the truths he loved in the language that his contemporaries spoke.


God sends two bears to rip up 42 little children for making fun of Elisha's bald head.
2nd Kings
2:23 From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. âGet out of here, baldy!â they said. âGet out of here, baldy!â
2:24 He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the LORD. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys.
2:25 And he went on to Mount Carmel and from there returned to Samaria.


You must hate your father, mother, wife, children, brothers, sisters, yourself, and carry a cross on your back to become a disciple.
Luke
14:25 Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and turning to them he said:
14:26 âIf anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sistersâ"yes, even their own lifeâ"such a person cannot be my disciple.
14:27 And whoever does not carry their cross and follow me cannot be my disciple.
14:28 âSuppose one of you wants to build a tower. Wonât you first sit down and estimate the cost to see if you have enough money to complete it?
14:29 For if you lay the foundation and are not able to finish it, everyone who sees it will ridicule you,
14:30 saying, âThis person began to build and wasnât able to finish.â


Sell your clothes for a sword.
Luke
22:35 Then Jesus asked them, âWhen I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?â

âNothing,â they answered.

22:36 He said to them, âBut now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you donât have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.
22:37 It is written: âAnd he was numbered with the transgressorsâ[a]; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment.â
22:38 The disciples said, âSee, Lord, here are two swords.â

âThatâs enough!â he replied.


Beat your children
Proverbs
23:13 Do not withhold discipline from a child;
if you punish them with the rod, they will not die.
23:14 Punish them with the rod
and save them from death.


Moses's Vengence
Numbers
31:1 The LORD said to Moses,
31:2 âTake vengeance on the Midianites for the Israelites. After that, you will be gathered to your people.â
31:15 âHave you allowed all the women to live?â he asked them.
31:16 âThey were the ones who followed Balaamâs advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the LORD in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the LORDâs people.
31:17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.


God & Slavery
Leviticus
25:40 They are to be treated as hired workers or temporary residents among you; they are to work for you until the Year of Jubilee.
25:41 Then they and their children are to be released, and they will go back to their own clans and to the property of their ancestors.
25:42 Because the Israelites are my servants, whom I brought out of Egypt, they must not be sold as slaves.
25:43 Do not rule over them ruthlessly, but fear your God.

25:44 ââYour male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves.
25:45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.
25:46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.


Old Testament Counts
Matthew
5:17 âDo not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
5:18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
5:19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.



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MageGrayWolf
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I fail to see what your getting at?

My translation says "Every word of God is refined; He is a shield for all who take refuge in Him."
So i don't really know what to say. Besides for that, Proverbs wasn't even supposedly written by God. It was completely written by man.


Sure you know what to say. I just don't think you want to.
master565
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I fail to see what your getting at?


Than i quote myself earlier this page "don't ask me questions on the new testament because i don't believe in jesus"

Sure you know what to say. I just don't think you want to.


No i don't know what to say because all i can argue is that my translation is correct. Also i did say something and that is that God never said his word is flawless, man did.
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Isn't A.D based off of jesus's birth. Even now that they've changed it it's still the same dates.

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Just out of curiosity, why would a God write/dictate a book that could be taken many different ways? If he wanted a book that shows off his divine magnificence, wouldn't he have written/dictated that something totally indisputable be written? That is, something written totally literally.

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If they are the same dates, as you say, then you support the idea that Jesus Christ was born B.C.E. So if it was off Jesus's birth, you would think they would position him right on the start of the Common Era. I am not sure what I am arguing about anymore, but BCE using the same timeline as the primitive A.D. and A.C. doesn't.mean.squat.

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Just out of curiosity, why would a God write/dictate a book that could be taken many different ways? If he wanted a book that shows off his divine magnificence, wouldn't he have written/dictated that something totally indisputable be written? That is, something written totally literally.

Except some of the things can't be totally literal.
Muse2223
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Except some of the things can't be totally literal.


That's what I'm wondering though.

Why would God not write a book that can't be interpreted any other way?
indie55
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Because it's good if everyone has their own religion. We're all right in a way. Whichever way anyone think they are correct. That's the beauty of it. It's open for interpretation.

master565
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For the last 6 posts, none of them have even been slightly on topic.

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Because it's good if everyone has their own religion.


Because people ramming planes in to buildings for believing a slightly different god is good. Because people getting thrown in camps because of there ethnicity, culture, and religion is good. Because the crusades where good. Actually, what good has come of this?

We're all right in a way.


No, you are all wrong. None of you have any evidence, you are all just taking what you want out of an ambiguous book.

That's the beauty of it. It's open for interpretation.


The beauty is that no one can understand what it says? What is Yahweh intending to give with this book? "Well I am omnipotent, I could give them a book which tells them the secrets of the universe. Or I could give them an ambiguous book, which will be a lot more fun. Lets go with the second one.
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I'm just guessing that they didn't want them to rise again and try to take back the city but i have no idea. Also "MOST OTHER NATIONS WOULD'VE killed some but left tem in their city under their control" is completely false because the only nation i know of that did this were the Romans.


OK, name the nations that were genocidal with evidence. The logical thing is to leave some people alive and make them work for you.

Deutoronomy (21:13) And she shall remove the garment of her captivity from upon herself, and stay in your house, and weep for her father and her mother for a full month. After that, you may be intimate with her and possess her, and she will be a wife for you.


You see if you look closely you will see a miraculous absence of the word consent.

If people don't follow it than those people aren't following the bible. If you are breaking the rules than you can't say the rules are bad because they are being broken. If i don't follow a law does that mean its a bad law? Not necessarily, it just means i didn't follow it and I'm subject to the punishment given for not doing so.


But God made people so that they'd disobey his book.

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Your point?

My translation says "Every word of God is refined; He is a shield for all who take refuge in Him."
So i don't really know what to say. Besides for that, Proverbs wasn't even supposedly written by God. It was completely written by man.


The entire bible was written by man. Even you must agree with that.

Because it's good if everyone has their own religion. We're all right in a way. Whichever way anyone think they are correct. That's the beauty of it. It's open for interpretation.


OK I interpret it as God is a selfish bas****. People have wars over differences in religion, how is this a good thing? And by your logic no religion is correct because no one knows what god truly meant so logically being an atheist is the best choice.
master565
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OK, name the nations that were genocidal with evidence. The logical thing is to leave some people alive and make them work for you.


They would have left people alive but they wouldn't have left them in charge.

You see if you look closely you will see a miraculous absence of the word consent.


If you read my post, you are missing "the original hebrew text implies" in my post. You can't fully understand the bible with an english translation.

But God made people so that they'd disobey his book.


He made people with free choice so they can chose to disobey his book or chose to obey it.

Your point?


Quoting myself twice last page "don't ask me questions on the new testament because i don't believe in jesus"

The entire bible was written by man. Even you must agree with that.


No i don't. There are two bibles in my religion, an oral one and a written one. The oral one was given by God and has laws that were passed down orally and they written one was supposedly dictated by God for man to writes. So indirectly, God did write it.
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No i don't know what to say because all i can argue is that my translation is correct. Also i did say something and that is that God never said his word is flawless, man did.


But you do agree it's all inspired by God right?

Whichever way anyone think they are correct. That's the beauty of it. It's open for interpretation.


That's also a very good indication that it's all make believe.

The oral one was given by God and has laws that were passed down orally and they written one was supposedly dictated by God for man to writes. So indirectly, God did write it.


Why would God use such a poor method of handing down knowledge? How do you know an actual God had anything to do with any of it?
master565
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But you do agree it's all inspired by God right?


Yes but man makes mistakes.

Why would God use such a poor method of handing down knowledge? How do you know an actual God had anything to do with any of it?


Thats just asking if i believe in God.
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i will quote myself from page 6 since nobody answered

You said that the teachings about morals in the bible aren't applicable to today's world, but then I don't see why the other teachings in the bible should apply, since they are as old and outdated as the others.
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