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liamster3
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Nomad

tell me what you think

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Kasic
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Jester

you dont believe atheists are going to bun in hell foreve?


If I recall right, Dair believes everyone who does good things in life goes to heaven, am I correct? Not really sure, maybe i'm thinking of someone else.
sprooschicken
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Nomad

if thats the truth it sounds like hes kidding himself

dair5
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Shepherd

Pretty much. If you're a good person or at least try to be, can't help not being good, you'll go to heaven. But why am I kidding myself?

sprooschicken
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Nomad

because no religion on earth teaches this, it also sounds like you only believe in religion because yoou are scared of death

dair5
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Shepherd

No, I belive on my religon which is christianity and was taught this in a church. There are different types of christians. It's not 3 billion people who all exactly belive in the same thing.

MageGrayWolf
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I guess it depends what you think of as wasted time. To feel like going to be safe and sound when I die isn't wasted to me. That feeling is very important in life. But there are some people who are perfectly fine with thinking that after death life won't continue, all your memorys and experiences will be gone. It's just too scary for me.


It would all be self deception though. The real ramifications can have an overall negative effect on life. For example, based on the recent beliefs of the rapture coming a money killed her children thinking she was saving them from the on coming apocalypse.
MageGrayWolf
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There are different types of christians. It's not 3 billion people who all exactly belive in the same thing.


Very true, there are over 30,000 variations.
dair5
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Yes, sadly there will be these people. But I think that's more in relation to human fear. For example if scientists predicted a meteor would hit earth i'm sure someone would do the same. Unfortunatly there are extreamists who will take things to far, but to abolish religon would be to abolish all the potentailly good things that can come from it.

Kasic
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Jester

For example if scientists predicted a meteor would hit earth i'm sure someone would do the same.


Except in this case, there would actually be a reason to be scared if it was big enough/going to hit where you live...

but to abolish religon would be to abolish all the potentailly good things that can come from it.


What comes from religion that you cannot get elsewhere?
dair5
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Except in this case, there would actually be a reason to be scared if it was big enough/going to hit where you live...


Sorry I forgot to add that they made a miscalculation and we don't die.

What comes from religion that you cannot get elsewhere?


Well in some religons you get a sense of security after death, others a philosaphy of non-violence, ect... Religons are a belife or philosaphy right. So then without religon you couldn't have certain belifes or philosaphys.
sprooschicken
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Nomad

well thats just an out and out lie, i have no religion nor does anyone i associate with, yet we all have our own morals and philosophies, its arrogant to think that religion gives us morals

dair5
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No of course not. If I did say that i'm sorry, it wasn't what i meant. I meant that without religon we wouldn't have certain belifes. Some of which include morals, or specific belifes that benifit socity. But I'm not saying that religon gives us morals.

Kasic
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Well in some religons you get a sense of security after death


I don't have a religion and I don't fear death, in fact I think that after a long life it'd be nice to just have nothing at all, like sleeping forever.

others a philosaphy of non-violence,


You don't need to have a religion to have non-violence, you just need to teach people and it follows itself.

Religons are a belife or philosaphy right.


What they call right anyways. They can say whatever they want is right, that doens't make it so. The bible teaches that slavery is right, does that make it so? No.

So then without religon you couldn't have certain belifes or philosaphys


Yes you can, in fact, it would probably be more common, as religion teaches arrogance (Like this) and that you and only you are right, and that anyone who opposes you is wrong, and that you have a right as a follower of the one true religion to teach them this or make sure they aren't allowed to continue doing such.
Kasic
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I meant that without religon we wouldn't have certain belifes.


Sorry for double post, but, what are these "Certain beliefs" that we would not otherwise have without religion?
dair5
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Religons are a belife or philosaphy right.


Sorry for confusion. it should have been,

Religons are a belife or philosaphy right?

Yes you can, in fact, it would probably be more common, as religion teaches arrogance (Like this) and that you and only you are right, and that anyone who opposes you is wrong, and that you have a right as a follower of the one true religion to teach them this or make sure they aren't allowed to continue doing such.


Well a few things like God and I think life after death(not compleatly sure) are things it would be pretty hard to have without religon. But the whole part about religous people needing to change others isn't entirly true. The way I was taught was that people have their belifes and you hav yours. But that's not something to Judge them on. You should judge them as their own individual person.
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