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Apparently the effort of cleaning up the forums has been biased, so the CoD group get their own thread for discussing as well.
Enjoy.
THEY SET HIM ON FREAKING FIRE
Just came on here to say that MW3 has a 2.7 out of 10 score on Metacritic on Xbox 360, and it's even worse on PC.
Pretty much all of them are from battle field fanboys,
If a game is a copy of another game, it deserves the exact same rating as it,
it's should just be considered an unoriginal waste of money.
Pretty much all of them are from battle field fanboys,
I'm shocked that you think a game exactly the same like the other deserves an equal rating
to those kids saying Ghost won't come back:
They said there's a flashback mission in MW3 in which you play as Ghost(I think it's true).
He is dead,it's just another flashback mission like the one in MW1 (Cpt.Macmillan,remember).I guess i'm buying MW3 today.
That was only one category i listed.
When the critics, who i would trust much more considering it's their job to analyze games,
give a game a 9 and users give it a 2.7, there's something to be said.
Think of it like this
A=MW2
B=MW3
C=a rating of 9/10
If A=B
and A=C
then B=C
but by logic the game's rating should be the same.
to those kids saying Ghost won't come back:
They said there's a flashback mission in MW3 in which you play as Ghost(I think it's true).
He is dead,it's just another flashback mission like the one in MW1 (Cpt.Macmillan,remember)
I guess i'm buying MW3 today.
Sorry, it appears I.... done the image wrong. Never been good at doing it :P
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don't wanna talk bout online, because I am not online till christmas, but I can say that Campaing mode is very good on Modern Warfare 2 and less so on Black Ops and COD4. Love headshots, love the Russian Invasion on American soil, that was new and innovative. I liked the airport massacre. Killin innocent civilians is good, but there's no kids which is unrealistic. Killin then police was good. It has great graphics and gameplay. Modern Warfare 2 is my fave.
This is an opinion based comment, not factual. Don't take this to heart. Also nothing to contribute. Just opinionated bias. Sorry...
The other two are perfectly viable candidates for judging MW3.
That's a big mistake. The rating SYSTEM is an arbritrary number that I've already said is very unreliable. The reviewers themselves may huge hold bias from their own views or the views of the company as a bad review would disallow a future review of a sequel -- getting a heads up on one of the biggest games around means a lot to them.
That the reviewers are hyping up a game in order to get eyes on the insides for the next one and of course so they don't stand out like nubs to a large playerbase in the world that plays CoD.
By logic the sequel should clean up the bad parts
B = A - F + P = Second Game
But you can't even look at it like that either, it's more accurate sure but nonetheless a poor perspective.
MW3 Lacks proper Dedicated Servers - none of them are allowed to be ranked. What the hell? That's a step BACK from Call of Duty 4 and even Black Ops.
MW3 Lacks Mod Tools - a step BACK from Call of Duty 4.
MW3 By most chances lacks any form of real balance - a step BACK from Call of Duty 4 -- although that did have its own balance issues that ultimately diminish with the introduction of ProMod.
I haven't played it
I explained why the other two are invalid.
I'm not really sure what you're saying, why would giving a bad review not allow them to play another game of the series in the future?
I highly doubt most reviewers think they have a chance of getting any inside info.
they will get angry at the reviewer for lying to them and probably won't want to check their reviews if they do this consistently.
Should, but they don't necessarily.
All I'm saying is that if two things are the same, they should be treated the same.
I probably won't keep buying the game if they don't start innovating, but the games deserve identical ratings.
They should know when they're buying this game that it is exactly the same.
That's saying what the second game should be, not what rating it deserves.
If it's a step back it deserves a worse rating, but the argument is currently that it's exactly the same.
I think you should play it before arguing how good it is.
alright so i just play mw3 multiplayer and it was amazing. The new kill streak set up is great, alowing you to set kill streaks for each class. also their are three groups of differnet killstreaks. assault (your more destructive killstreaks that build on each other.) suport (you more team frendly kill streaks that DONT reset when you die) and the specialists (not much i know about it, other than you can set perks as kill streaks)
the new weapons are great. i am also liking how they divided up the sleight of hand from being the quick scoper perk of death. sadly their is no stopping power or hardened, but the guns have increased in power so it is not need too much. the quick scoping is still good though. they have a new perk, quick draw, that is sleight of hand pros ability of aiming down the sights faster. now sleight of hands pro is faster weapon swaps which is not bad at all. the maps are fun and unique. i am enjoying it so far. it has this cod 4 feel to the game which is pretty nice. i just feel like im playing a better version of cod 4, not one of mw2 or black ops. they took a few guns from all three of these games. shotguns are still primary weapons, new machine pistols, new snipers, brand new perks i cant even get started on, amazing maps and great cosomizeable kill streaks.
over all on a raiting of 10 i give it 8.5. this is just for multiplayer though i havent even started the story yet, im saving that for the weekend. i wanted an edge on everyone. turns out i didnt need it. i used my old mw2 friend the ump-45 to go 19 and 5 on my first match. no i know thats normally pretty bad, but for my first match with brand new unknown maps, thats pretty good.
Well then - enlighten me on where you explained that. ^^
So... I learnt the MW3 storyline before it was even out, and they don't have a chance of getting inside info?
Yep... because once you've adopted the seemingly advanced mindset of a reviewer most people then certainly decide to think for themselves.
They will construe the game the reviewer set it as... which is a bad thing to do -- as it makes you vulnerable.
The sequel should be judged on how much it did clean up
I think it is a simple matter of interpretation. You say they're identical and thus they deserve the same.
They are identical - but the positions they're in aren't. One is the first, and thus should have lower ratings for unforeseen mistakes. The second is a sequel - that should be expected to have fixed those mistakes and brought at least some innovation -- otherwise it is as much worth as a patch.
So you would rate a game based on what it apparently deserves? How do you work out what it deserves? Rate it for what it should be, but take into considerations flaws with what it is. Battlefield 3 Singleplayer -- interactive movie, not much else.
It is a SEQUEL and has taken a step back -- this shows a piss poor analysis by the developers, and a rediculous track back that simply should not have happened.
My explanation is what we've been arguing this entire time.
If a game is a copy of another game, it deserves the exact same rating as it, it's should just be considered an unoriginal waste of money.
Do you know how they got that data? Because one store accidentally sold a few copies before the release and at one point two truckloads of the game was stolen in europe.
People clearly aren't thinking in the same was a the critics.
You can't really say these are things most people will do, you obviously aren't getting someone's own opinion if they are doing this.
That's one opinion.
Once again, this is how you see it. I guess this comes down to a matter of opinion as to what you are looking for in the sequel.
Not changing or fixing anything isn't a step back, it's just not a step, you're staying right where you just were.
Though on a slightly irrelevant note, I've gotten a bit into the campaign now, it's freaking awesome.
It is pretty much the same gameplay as MW2,
but MW2's gameplay was amazing.
I was extremely disappointed that MW2's campaign was over so soon
MW3 Is the sequel to MW2, sequel to MW1. MW3 is worse than MW2 because it had many the same a problem, again no balance and the same gameplay - nothing new really came.
Oh, survival mode. Yay >.>
The last part in bold... what?
And yeah I can -- anyone who is willing to trust a critic like that is vulnerable. Or at all, even.
So you really want me to use the "Quality > Quantity" argument? Look at the REASON instead of swinging it aside because oh noes -- it's just me.
Are you saying that one should be determined on what it is, without any consideration for its position or the state of the game industry?
Why do you think people DISLIKE BF3'S CAMPAIGN?
I already gave a reason -- it could've been more useful AND better with immersion. Instead it had the feature every other game has now:
Linearity.
Sequels have the expectancy of having them fixed
Despite it's foundation being stupid.
Which is BAD. Oh, and "Gee, what a shock".
Despite the horrendous balancing and poor maps?
It lost all plausibility when an Ultranationalist killed hundreds of Ultranationalists to start a war between Ultranationalists and Patriots.
I trust the YouTube comment saying that this is "America's Awesome: The Game" than what you're saying right now -- do you have a proper mindset for games? It does not appear so.
o not think that I am arrogant for the quality / quantity argument.
nothing new really came
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