What do you think of the war between the U.S. and afghanistan?

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Turtelman1234

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Posted October 9, '11 10:44pm UTC

1st class weapons made whit money from people all around the world

Care to name off the countries the U.S. has borrowed money from?

now your in money problems.

The world is in money problems as of right now.

you should be done in a few year

And you think you could do it any better? And the two main terrorist groups (Taliban and Al-Quida) can't stand each other. And with the leaders of Al-Quida dropping like flies, the Taliban will eventually wipe out Al-Quida and the

Now, let's look at things from tactical perspectives:

1: It's their turf we're fighting on. They have the home field advantage.
2: Car bombs: could be any car, you never know if the next car you walk past could be your last.
3: You don't know who's who until they pull a gun out and point it at you.
4: Occasionally, they'll strap bombs to helpless civilians and make them walk over the soldiers and detonate the bomb.
5: The mines are in the ground, making them practically invisible. EOD squads aren't omnipotent beings, they can't diffuse every bomb before it goes off.
6: The more devoted ones actually have training.
7: They're not as dumb as you think they are, just look at reasons 1-6.

[quote]1st class weapons made whit money from people all around the world[/quote]\r\n\r\nCare to name off the countries the U.S. has borrowed money from?\r\n\r\n[quote]now your in money problems.[/quote]\r\n\r\n[b]The world[/b] is in money problems as of right now.\r\n\r\n[quote]you should be done in a few year[/quote]\r\n\r\nAnd you think you could do it any better? And the two main terrorist groups (Taliban and Al-Quida) can't stand each other. And with the leaders of Al-Quida dropping like flies, the Taliban will eventually wipe out Al-Quida and the \r\n\r\nNow, let's look at things from tactical perspectives:\r\n\r\n1: It's their turf we're fighting on. They have the home field advantage.\r\n2: Car bombs: could be any car, you never know if the next car you walk past could be your last.\r\n3: You don't know who's who until they pull a gun out and point it at you.\r\n4: Occasionally, they'll strap bombs to helpless civilians and make them walk over the soldiers and detonate the bomb.\r\n5: The mines are in the ground, making them practically invisible. EOD squads aren't omnipotent beings, they can't diffuse every bomb before it goes off.\r\n6: The more devoted ones actually have training.\r\n7: They're not as dumb as you think they are, just look at reasons 1-6.

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dair5

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Posted October 9, '11 10:53pm UTC

Wait a sec...

*Thinking thinking thinking* Why are we at war with them? Is there a good reason to be? (Or at least a reason good enough to hurt our economy this much.)

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EmperorPalpatine

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Posted October 9, '11 11:21pm UTC

*Thinking thinking thinking* Why are we at war with them? Is there a good reason to be? (Or at least a reason good enough to hurt our economy this much.)

Would you rather let them freely carry out their worldwide Jihad?

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dair5

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Posted October 9, '11 11:25pm UTC

Would you rather let them freely carry out their worldwide Jihad?

Nope. And so this is the most efficent way, right?

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deadhead50

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Posted October 9, '11 11:26pm UTC

*Thinking thinking thinking* Why are we at war with them? Is there a good reason to be? (Or at least a reason good enough to hurt our economy this much.)

I'm not good on politics or anything like this but from my view doesn't war HELP the economy?

AND in response to

1st class weapons made whit money from people all around the world

The U.S makes there own weapons, yes most of the stuff in the U.S is imported but followed by a quote

"You look at a toy as a child and it says "Made In China" but you look at tear gas canisters it says "Made In U.S.A""

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zakyman

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Posted October 10, '11 12:44am UTC

usa: - 1st class weapons made whit money from people all around the world - biggest and most advanced millitary force in the world
VS.
terrorists: - ak-47's - handgranades - rpg launcers and best weapon are mine's

It's not that simple. The US military is dressed in uniform, and conspicuous among the Afghan people. Taliban can dress in tribal clothing, dress as a woman, (burqa), or just in regular clothing. It is extremely difficult to find and kill these terrorists.

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EmperorPalpatine

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Posted October 10, '11 4:29am UTC

It's not that simple...

It's kind of like being a cop in the US who needs to search the city for a specific white male aged 25-35 without knowing what they look like and without confronting the wrong person.

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thepunisher93

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Posted October 10, '11 1:10pm UTC

But you said that the U.S. was getting their butts kicked when clearly that's not the case, proven by the works of EmperorPalpatine. And casualties do matter because you can't fight a war where weapons are being fired without an army. Nations with those mindsets are wasteful.

Wrong history proves these nations are victorious in the end
E.g
USSR IN STALINGRAD
AFGHANS in war against USSR and G.B

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partydevil

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Posted October 10, '11 4:57pm UTC

Care to name off the countries the U.S. has borrowed money from?

china, russia and about all european countrys.

The U.S makes there own weapons, yes most of the stuff in the U.S is imported but followed by a quote

made and paid for are 2 different things =)
(and no i don't say we paid for it all. but a reasonable amount of it is.)

anyway i thought i give it a funny twist for a change. if you let me start about america and their hunger to become the hero over and over again/ (its failing ) then this little thread of you all will be ruined

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Turtelman1234

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Posted October 11, '11 10:30pm UTC

Wrong history proves these nations are victorious in the end
E.g
USSR IN STALINGRAD
AFGHANS in war against USSR and G.B

Since when was everything set in stone? It was Germany that was in Stalingrad, not the entire USSR. And it's the terrorist groups in the Middle East against the U.S.A., pretty much all of Europe, NATO, etc., not the Afghan government.

made and paid for are 2 different things =)
(and no i don't say we paid for it all. but a reasonable amount of it is.)

I find it funny that you're constantly complaining about probably less than 5%, while we owe Chine probably more than 80%. You don't hear their citizens complaining about debts we owe them.

I saw a special one night about something sort of like this.

Some the poor African American communities are so poor because they believe that the government still owes them for the wrongs white people committed, so they stand by and do nothing waiting for these grants when really, they're not going to get a penny for it.

While some Native Americans haven't been waiting for something that'll never happen and do something with themselves. They've started entire construction companies and are living quite well, when really I believe that the Americans during Andrew Jackson's time in office treated the Native Americans much worse than the African Americans.

We took their land by force, spread vicious disease, then made them walk by foot across the country to crowded reserves.

In other words, you complaining makes you the whiny African American communities and China would be the Native Americans that we kicked out.

[quote]Wrong history proves these nations are victorious in the end\r\nE.g\r\nUSSR IN STALINGRAD\r\nAFGHANS in war against USSR and G.B[/quote]\r\n\r\nSince when was everything set in stone? It was Germany that was in Stalingrad, not the entire USSR. And it's the terrorist groups in the Middle East against the U.S.A., pretty much all of Europe, NATO, etc., not the Afghan government.\r\n\r\n[quote]made and paid for are 2 different things =)\r\n(and no i don't say we paid for it all. but a reasonable amount of it is.)[/quote]\r\n\r\nI find it funny that you're constantly complaining about probably less than 5%, while we owe Chine probably more than 80%. You don't hear their citizens complaining about debts we owe them.\r\n\r\nI saw a special one night about something sort of like this.\r\n\r\nSome the poor African American communities are so poor because they believe that the government still owes them for the wrongs white people committed, so they stand by and do nothing waiting for these grants when really, they're not going to get a penny for it.\r\n\r\nWhile some Native Americans haven't been waiting for something that'll never happen and do something with themselves. They've started entire construction companies and are living quite well, when really I believe that the Americans during Andrew Jackson's time in office treated the Native Americans much worse than the African Americans.\r\n\r\nWe took their land by force, spread vicious disease, then made them walk by foot across the country to crowded reserves.\r\n\r\nIn other words, you complaining makes you the whiny African American communities and China would be the Native Americans that we kicked out.

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crazyape

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Posted October 11, '11 10:54pm UTC

To all terrorists out there:
You wanna beat the americans? Here's how ya do it....
Set up a town, or take over one. Have it totally filled with your people, and your people alone. Strategically position snipers all around the place, while having everyone else look like normal Ghanni's. When an american patrol passes through the town, wait for a soldier to leave the group, and pick him off, disposing of the body quickly. Take his weapons, and uniform. Wash it, and patch the bullet hole(s). Then, pick off the entire patrol one man at a time. If they're going in pairs, have a set-up so someone picks off one soldier, the other turns, and gets picked off from behind. Having your people only in the village is important, so there will be no screaming. Also, Silencers will be needed. ONce you take out the patrol, they will most likely send another one, better-guarded, and more cautious. Sacrifice some of your people in a fake fire-fight, with your people shooting at a set group, so the americans pick a side. Have your groups fire little at each-other, with the opposing group fire at the americans until one group is dead. The people "helping" the americans then shoot any remaining americans fater the fire-fight, and it looks like they were killed in a firefight. The remaining helpers run back to the remaining americans, explain the "situation", and repeat the process, until the patrol is gone. You can develope this strategy as needed, with slight variations. Keep your snipers under something, or inside of something, to avoid benig seen and recorded by satelites.

To all american patrollers who want to finish it once and for all: Shoot anything that moves. Leave no man women or child alive. if you take a chance, you'll end up dead, so kill everyone.

Ya see, the problem with people today is either they don't have enough brains, or they have too much morals. If I was the leader of eitehr force, I would bring many victories, however harsh the consquences.
And that's what I think. Stupid americans, giving candy to kids. They aren't there to help the economy, they're there to protect their homeland by any means possible, even if it means the ellimination of a people group. Sheesh. And the terrorists with their suicide bombings! That isn't the way to go about it! Grow some brains!

To all terrorists out there:\r\nYou wanna beat the americans? Here's how ya do it....\r\nSet up a town, or take over one. Have it totally filled with your people, and your people alone. Strategically position snipers all around the place, while having everyone else look like normal Ghanni's. When an american patrol passes through the town, wait for a soldier to leave the group, and pick him off, disposing of the body quickly. Take his weapons, and uniform. Wash it, and patch the bullet hole(s). Then, pick off the entire patrol one man at a time. If they're going in pairs, have a set-up so someone picks off one soldier, the other turns, and gets picked off from behind. Having your people only in the village is important, so there will be no screaming. Also, Silencers will be needed. ONce you take out the patrol, they will most likely send another one, better-guarded, and more cautious. Sacrifice some of your people in a fake fire-fight, with your people shooting at a set group, so the americans pick a side. Have your groups fire little at each-other, with the opposing group fire at the americans until one group is dead. The people "helping" the americans then shoot any remaining americans fater the fire-fight, and it looks like they were killed in a firefight. The remaining helpers run back to the remaining americans, explain the "situation", and repeat the process, until the patrol is gone. You can develope this strategy as needed, with slight variations. Keep your snipers under something, or inside of something, to avoid benig seen and recorded by satelites.\r\n\r\nTo all american patrollers who want to finish it once and for all: Shoot anything that moves. Leave no man women or child alive. if you take a chance, you'll end up dead, so kill everyone.\r\n\r\nYa see, the problem with people today is either they don't have enough brains, or they have too much morals. If I was the leader of eitehr force, I would bring many victories, however harsh the consquences.\r\nAnd that's what I think. Stupid americans, giving candy to kids. They aren't there to help the economy, they're there to protect their homeland by any means possible, even if it means the ellimination of a people group.  Sheesh. And the terrorists with their suicide bombings! That isn't the way to go about it! Grow some brains!

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Turtelman1234

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Posted October 12, '11 2:12am UTC

I would bring many victories, however harsh the consquences.

Yeah, look where that got Hitler, Sudam, and Osama. Not to mention you'd be fired and arrested for crimes against humanity,

And the terrorists with their suicide bombings! That isn't the way to go about it! Grow some brains

The terrorist groups don't give a flying rats a** how they do it, as long as they get the job done, nothing else matters. And as far as numbers go, it's working. If they didn't, I predict that the total casualties for the nations fighting with the U.S. would total at about 10 while the U.S.'s casualties would lie within the 100's. They're not as dumb as you think they are, they definitely know how to kill people, that's for sure.

To all terrorists out there:

Wanna get spotted by a predator drone in less than about 2 hours?

Here's how ya do it....
Set up a town, or take over one. Have it totally filled with your people, and your people alone. Strategically position snipers all around the place, while having everyone else look like normal Ghanni's. When an american patrol passes through the town, wait for a soldier to leave the group, and pick him off, disposing of the body quickly. Take his weapons, and uniform. Wash it, and patch the bullet hole(s). Then, pick off the entire patrol one man at a time. If they're going in pairs, have a set-up so someone picks off one soldier, the other turns, and gets picked off from behind. Having your people only in the village is important, so there will be no screaming. Also, Silencers will be needed. ONce you take out the patrol, they will most likely send another one, better-guarded, and more cautious. Sacrifice some of your people in a fake fire-fight, with your people shooting at a set group, so the americans pick a side. Have your groups fire little at each-other, with the opposing group fire at the americans until one group is dead. The people "helping" the americans then shoot any remaining americans fater the fire-fight, and it looks like they were killed in a firefight. The remaining helpers run back to the remaining americans, explain the "situation", and repeat the process, until the patrol is gone. You can develope this strategy as needed, with slight variations. Keep your snipers under something, or inside of something, to avoid benig seen and recorded by satelites

[quote]I would bring many victories, however harsh the consquences.[/quote]\r\n\r\nYeah, look where that got Hitler, Sudam, and Osama. Not to mention you'd be fired and arrested for crimes against humanity, \r\n\r\n[quote] And the terrorists with their suicide bombings! That isn't the way to go about it! Grow some brains[/quote]\r\n\r\nThe terrorist groups don't give a flying rats a** how they do it, as long as they get the job done, nothing else matters. And as far as numbers go, it's working. If they didn't, I predict that the total casualties for the nations fighting with the U.S. would total at about 10 while the U.S.'s casualties would lie within the 100's. They're not as dumb as you think they are, they definitely know how to kill people, that's for sure.\r\n\r\n[quote]To all terrorists out there:[/quote]\r\n\r\nWanna get spotted by a predator drone in less than about 2 hours?\r\n\r\n[quote]Here's how ya do it....\r\nSet up a town, or take over one. Have it totally filled with your people, and your people alone. Strategically position snipers all around the place, while having everyone else look like normal Ghanni's. When an american patrol passes through the town, wait for a soldier to leave the group, and pick him off, disposing of the body quickly. Take his weapons, and uniform. Wash it, and patch the bullet hole(s). Then, pick off the entire patrol one man at a time. If they're going in pairs, have a set-up so someone picks off one soldier, the other turns, and gets picked off from behind. Having your people only in the village is important, so there will be no screaming. Also, Silencers will be needed. ONce you take out the patrol, they will most likely send another one, better-guarded, and more cautious. Sacrifice some of your people in a fake fire-fight, with your people shooting at a set group, so the americans pick a side. Have your groups fire little at each-other, with the opposing group fire at the americans until one group is dead. The people "helping" the americans then shoot any remaining americans fater the fire-fight, and it looks like they were killed in a firefight. The remaining helpers run back to the remaining americans, explain the "situation", and repeat the process, until the patrol is gone. You can develope this strategy as needed, with slight variations. Keep your snipers under something, or inside of something, to avoid benig seen and recorded by satelites[/quote]

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partydevil

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Posted October 12, '11 4:52pm UTC

I find it funny that you're constantly complaining about probably less than 5%, while we owe Chine probably more than 80%. You don't hear their citizens complaining about debts we owe them.

i'm not standing for only my own country i'm speaking about the whole world like i said in my 1st post here &quotaid by people all over the world" i didn't say &quotaid by us"
and chinese citizens are complaining about the debt. but you don't understand their symbols.
the chinese government is in need of the money because they are facing a big upcoming debt because of the failing of their 1 child law.

In other words, you complaining makes you the whiny African American communities and China would be the Native Americans that we kicked out.

your saying that the dutch are not working well? and that we are not good in managing a business? hahahaha srry but thats just funny. i got nothing more to say about that.

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Turtelman1234

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Posted October 12, '11 8:05pm UTC

your saying that the dutch are not working well? and that we are not good in managing a business? hahahaha srry but thats just funny. i got nothing more to say about that

Is China currently (key word: currently. As in at this moment) in debt? No. Is all of Europe currently in debt looking for a country to bail them out? Yes, that was the point I was making.

not laughing now, are ya?

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crazyape

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Posted October 17, '11 7:02pm UTC

Wanna get spotted by a predator drone in less than about 2 hours?

ON the contrary, they would assume that there were civilians in the area, and wouldn't nuke it. Jeez. That's america's problem. Too easy on the stinkin' Middle eastern civilians. If they DID something about it, then we wouldn't HAVE this problem.

American Army=Not gonna bomb a village

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