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Omnihero10
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see idk were this goes but i think its a big problom... see im 13 and i think my self as a mature "teen" were i live people (guys) think fart sounds and harassment is fun... most people on ar are like 14 15 16... so you all know what im talking about... but immaturity isnt just a school problem... if those retards are going to run the world oneday i fear for myself... some girls near me dont no what symbiosis is the day after we "learned" it or even how to do fraction... we have reviews them for three years... some guys litterly make fart noises in class... then laugh like a fat guy fell... i dont get it? wtf

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Kasic
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see im 13 and i think my self as a mature "teen" were i live people (guys) think fart sounds and harassment is fun...


Most likely they believe that most guys find that funny and so as to fit in they laugh too, and eventually it just happens. Or they very well could be immature, it's not uncommon.

most people on ar are like 14 15 16... so you all know what im talking about..


Age and maturity are linked, but not very tightly. I have seen immature people of all ages. Generally people do mature as they get older but not always.

some girls near me dont no what symbiosis is the day after we "learned" it or even how to do fraction...


This has nothing to do with immaturity, it has to do with not paying attention or not being very smart.
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Age and maturity are linked,

You saved yourself from me when you said
but not very tightly.

^^

This has nothing to do with immaturity, it has to do with not paying attention

That's one thing I've never understood, what is the actual attention span of someone? I've not had a problem spending 2 hours - 3 hours straight dead focused on the same task at hand... I truely have no idea why people have such problems with it.

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i agree with high fire i find that it is easy to stay focused during math science or any other class

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Well, that is how children are. I mean they are still kids and kids are generally immature, i find it easy to act mature, but maturity is boring, being a kid is fun!


That's one thing I've never understood, what is the actual attention span of someone? I've not had a problem spending 2 hours - 3 hours straight dead focused on the same task at hand... I truely have no idea why people have such problems with it.


same with me, while the girl behind me questions the point of geography class i just sit there and listen, and if he gave us a test tomorrow i would probably pass it, while the one behind who spent her time complaining would fail, and i'd laugh
Omnihero10
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and truth is ... arnt we all still pack animals... looking for a group to imperss that adapt to the kind of people... wven if you were a genis if you hang around idiots for weeks ... youstart to be stupid... i see what you all are saying and i agree.... the thread point af view changed... but what im saying is there not stupid... they eithere dont care or talk to much... see we have went over fractoin since 3rd grade... this one girl says im like a super genis for knowing how to do this... note that we are in the 8th grade... we have reviewed fractions every year and the actually Learn it every year...

Kasic
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? I've not had a problem spending 2 hours - 3 hours straight dead focused on the same task at hand...


I can spend hours doing something if it interests me. Although if in class it's something I already know or something I -really- just don't give a **** about then I find myself staring blankly at the wall and thinking about something else and have no clue what was said for the past 5-10 minutes.
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most people on ar are like 14 15 16... so you all know what im talking about... but immaturity isnt just a school problem... if those retards are going to run the world oneday i fear for myself...


I am pretty near certain all of our current leaders were once part of this age group, and probably pretty immature.

Even Barry Obama was once 14. There's a process of maturation, it's called "growing up".

Don't be in a mad rush to be "mature". When you're old, you'll miss those times.
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Immaturity is a big problem on this site, of course being immature and stupid is fun sometimes, but there a time and a place.

I see droves of people in here that know NOTHING literally NOTHING about what they are trying to debate, either humanity has gone down the crapper faster and more dramatically or there are a lot of underage users, i find it very hard to believe that these people are 13 or older, their level of stupidity is such that they try to salvage a losing argument by using insults, their maturity is such that I'm certain they're only 9 or 10

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Another thing...Your maturity is also measured in your grammar. If you fail to use periods and commas, then I'll assume you are an immature moron.

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I truely have no idea why people have such problems with it.

I have some problems with it where I will be paying attention and all of the sudden a thought pops into my mind, then when I get it out, the speech from the teacher is over...
I see droves of people in here that know NOTHING literally NOTHING about what they are trying to debate, either humanity has gone down the crapper faster and more dramatically or there are a lot of underage users, i find it very hard to believe that these people are 13 or older, their level of stupidity is such that they try to salvage a losing argument by using insults, their maturity is such that I'm certain they're only 9 or 10

I don't think 9 or 10 really makes a difference, when I was 9 or 10 I used to go to chats and people would think I was 16, I don't think "growing up" really has anything to do with it, I think it's more that they just don't care about trying to be polite and listen and get some facts before you enter a debate.
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Maturity has nothing to do with your age.

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Well I can't concentrate on things for hours. Maybe a hour max. And I am a little immature but I have no problem with it. At least I have fun and the people who know me aren't looking up strange from me. But I can be very mature. Not for a long time. But if someone has troubles they often talk to me (mostly because if they are right I dare to confront their parents with it) and i am very mature. But sometimes when I'm bored I'm starting to act childish. But hey, at least I have fun.

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this is not too bad of a problem at my school most people just get into high school and mature on there it happens at different times for everyone

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this is not too bad of a problem at my school most people just get into high school and mature on there it happens at different times for everyone


this is what the kid is complaining about. he is already lightyears ahead of the pack in the "growing up" section, and he is curious as to why everyone else is so far behind him.

there is no simple answer to why people are immature, it could be from home (being fed with a silver spoon), school (best friends are immature, so I must do so as well to keep them), or anywhere that the kid doesn't spend his time alone at. it doesn't matter how quickly you truly mature, it's if you can act mature when you get your first job so you can keep it.
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Well, that is how children are. I mean they are still kids and kids are generally immature, i find it easy to act mature, but maturity is boring, being a kid is fun!

It depends on what someone classifies what mature is - I've done more than anyone else I know my age for complicated matters - furthermore doing it voluntarily but that doesn't stop me doing stupid jokes infront of friends.

I wouldn't say maturity is the capability to do something rationally and sensibly but rather the point of actually doing it - but I don't think that would mean I'm immature for my behaviour with friends.

same with me, while the girl behind me questions the point of geography class i just sit there and listen, and if he gave us a test tomorrow i would probably pass it, while the one behind who spent her time complaining would fail, and i'd laugh

Something happened with my head-of-year's heart and someone else had to take over. The time was poor and he was in the position of setting the classes for the next year. I was put in with what I can safely say is the most idiotic one.

Even so, without revision I scored 85 / 100 on a Geography test, beating everyone else despite several mishaps during the class.
Strange how things work.
Anyway, I'm doing GSCE's now and I'm trying to learn things fast by helping others with it - finding ways to explain it to someone efficiently and easily will help the idea set in my own mind.

wven if you were a genis if you hang around idiots for weeks ... youstart to be stupid...

A few things could happen:
1) You could forget things you knew, being as you had not thought about them.
2) "Idiots" have influenced you and your manner of speaking or general attitude was adversely effected.
3) You're not really a genius if you're incapable of maintaining perspective - someone able to maintain perspective would see what would've been happening.

see we have went over fractoin since 3rd grade... this one girl says im like a super genis for knowing how to do this... note that we are in the 8th grade... we have reviewed fractions every year and the actually Learn it every year...

It's something beyond my understanding - "I listen in school", and it sounds unbelievable to people... Meh... :/

I can spend hours doing something if it interests me.

Interesting thing about me...
Okay, maybe not.
I virtually forced myself to like what was in School - made myself see the logic in it, and being as I eventually held a positive attitude I think it did greatly influence my learning curve of things. I "forced" myself at the age of 6 and that involved doing things like learning about the Hundred Years War, etc - I understood the concept of suffering now, gaining later.
Which was more or less my dad setting that into me, although not setting me on route to what I'd call an extreme case. :P

Although if in class it's something I already know or something I -really- just don't give a **** about then I find myself staring blankly at the wall and thinking about something else and have no clue what was said for the past 5-10 minutes.

Care about it because others care about it, and it can be an advantage. If I think about something else that isn't work when in school, it's either when working or something philosophical that I know is more important. Morality is my #1 priority, and whilst I won't let it hinder my work I've little problem with taking my time thinking about it.

Even Barry Obama was once 14. There's a process of maturation, it's called "growing up".

The speed of which is dependant on the people though. I know I'll come off as arrogant and I've little blame for anyone who perceives it as such but the adults I know in real life are horrendously childish compared to me.
I considered psychology of how you say things and furthermore what you said - it's apparent to me that people I know certainly haven't done the same. I don't blame them for it, but take my father - he's an idiot at interpretation, perceiving almost any partially insulting remark as an attack and as such takes an action of self-defense.
No regard for what the person actually meant or the probability that they may not have worded it correctly, even if they didn't realize.

A lack of caution, in a way.

The biggest problem is at what point can people judge on these matters? I'm not sure and I hate to pass judgement when I know I don't meet the requirements - but right now I'm a 14 year old who's been thinking about morality for the last 8 years, what more does it take?

Bare in mind I don't think time has a relation with "wisdom", as much as "experience". The fact that I've spent 8 years really doesn't mean much to me, but I'd rather be judged on my moral perceptions themselves. The problem with that is that it can't be proven or disproven - it's entirely opinionated and as such very difficult to actually highlight what is right and wrong.

Don't be in a mad rush to be "mature". When you're old, you'll miss those times.

I think your idea of maturity is different to mine.

Immaturity is a big problem on this site, of course being immature and stupid is fun sometimes, but there a time and a place.

I understand your point, but for the sake of being &quoticky", I guess - would you consider behaviour in the right place ('or simply not in the wrong place' being mature?

either humanity has gone down the crapper faster and more dramatically or there are a lot of underage users,

Underage? Doubtful, the age requirement is 13 if I remember right - and humanities moral / technological growth has only been growing up from what I've seen.

Despite what I've seen, ^^

their maturity is such that I'm certain they're only 9 or 10

I've little expectancy for people - it wouldn't surprise me that there would be people at the age of 14 and above that resort to such silly methods of "debate".

Another thing...Your maturity is also measured in your grammar.

not necessarily i mean if i did this all the time i dont think it would be that bad. the presentation isnt the most important thing, and i also think thats a problem for people to understand.

Right? :P

If you fail to use periods and commas, then I'll assume you are an immature moron.

I see your point, but it's the same as "bad language", to me. Lack of a proper structure for your sentence would hint to me that someone is... well, I wouldn't even call it stupidity or immaturity.
It could be a lack of effort or a rush - the main problem is when it's difficult to decipher what on earth they're saying. :/

Bad language, it's kind of the same. I'll admit that I curse on occasion - heck, some of you might know of times when I have (no need to point me out, thanks ^^ ), but I'm trying to do it through simple expression, not for having a little more in my vocabulary.

Excessive use shows a blatant amount of stupidity, but I really like if someone uses it (not excessively) and rather attempts to justify their use for it logically, whilst baring in mind that often in society cursing can be frowned upon from someone of younger age.
It also depends on your "standing" with a person - my brother-in-law who's not all that good with the teachers would be ripped on deep for swearing, but I remember using "lighter" curse words to help make my point with my Geography teacher in a hearty manner. He laughed, I laughed and he understood what I meant when I said "*******".
No need for context xD

I have some problems with it where I will be paying attention and all of the sudden a thought pops into my mind, then when I get it out, the speech from the teacher is over...

Make a conscious effort to focus on the work - let your mind drift off IN your work. I've a different way of doing trigonometry to everyone else in the class because I've been able to essentially "cut corners" or dumb it down to my own thought patterns.

Sorry if what I said wasn't helpful but I've never had the problem of attention difficulties.

I think it's more that they just don't care about trying to be polite and listen and get some facts before you enter a debate.

... Hehe, I don't think that's easy to understand. They don't care about trying to be polite, and listen and get some facts right before you enter a debate?
Comma would've helped if that's what you meant - in which case I would understand that you saw that they cared only for the point, not the presentation.

Please re-word what you said,

But hey, at least I have fun.

Fun means nothing if it's not done right.
That sounds stupid? Doesn't matter, because it makes sense ^^

it doesn't matter how quickly you truly mature, it's if you can act mature when you get your first job so you can keep it.

I think it takes a fair bit of maturity to think about morality though - 8 years, I won't say I was mature, I was more or less self-disciplined.
If it's "false" maturing, then it's not maturing - it's false. If you can't actually see / understand something then there is less maturity in pretending to than being curious about why it matters, what it does, or how it effects you. Curiosity is generally a trait of children - it's a trait that would be better off with everyone.

there is no simple answer to why people are immature, it could be from home (being fed with a silver spoon), school (best friends are immature, so I must do so as well to keep them), or anywhere that the kid doesn't spend his time alone at.

Kind of. Think of it as how energy works - cold is the lack of heat, so when there is something cold in your hands it isn't cold spreading from the object, it's heat essentially "draining" from your hands into the object.
Maturity is like positive energy - it takes an effort to have it there. From observation I've found that people who've had relatively bad lives or severe things happen to them ended up being philosophically outstanding people. That includes those who I'd think their philosophies or morals are wrong.

It's the "childish" example of "It's not fair" - hell, I think this is what happened to me. When you come to the realization that your parent / guardian is 4-6 times your age and still inconsiderate or something from YOUR point of view (even if you're wrong, this could be how you perceive it), they're wrong.
I came to the idea that I wouldn't want to be morally wrong - which is why I devoted so much time to making sure that didn't happen. It's taken a long long while but for the confidence in knowing that I'm not a bad person? Freakin' work it.

Of course, it's not really "knowing". Being as morality can't be proven or disproven, sadly. I find it's based on measurements of things - what values more over another. Would the life of an attacker be worth the life of the defender in a self-defense scenario? Would the life of a guilty defender be worth the life of a vindicating offender be more valuble? All aspects need be considered, and layers of this kind of moral pathing comes more when you consider culutral acceptance, the cultures moral standard, and etc.
The thing is I tend not to allow a bad moral be the winning side - even if it was the lesser of two evils, I would say - neither win. It's the case with almost everything for me, sadly, but nonetheless I think it's good to reflect on things and see how it's wrong to you.

Big post, sorry about that. :/

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