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bobbyr5
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I just feel the morals and ethics of the middle east aren't right compared to any western country.

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nichodemus
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here is link for you niko about sindh


Not to insult your eyesight, but did you even bother to read it? The first line is:

Sindh historically referred to as Ba'ab-ul-Islam (lit. The gateway of Islam), is one of the four provinces of Pakistan and historically is home to the Sindhi people.


An act of desperation Like "Better than nothing".


I would call it an act of "War-For-50-Years-Has-Failed-Negotiations-Might-Be-Better''.

Call it whatever you want. More Palestinians dislike Hamas than support them, and more Palestinians favour negotiations rather than gunfire.

In majority of muslims eyes it is.


I would think the opinion of the Palestinians matter the most.

Roughly half of Palestinians agree to recognising Israel. Furthermore, half of the Palestinians agree that non-violent popular movements should be used instead of violence if talks fail.

Clearly, not everyone is as bloodthirsty as what you portray them to be.
thepunisher93
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Not to insult your eyesight, but did you even bother to read it? The first line is:

Sindh historically referred to as Ba'ab-ul-Islam (lit. The gateway of Islam), is one of the four provinces of Pakistan and historically is home to the Sindhi people.

I said
"All the above mentioned districts were annexed to India other han sindh."
but forgot to typ T b4 "han"
"t"+ "han" = "than"
I would call it an act of "War-For-50-Years-Has-Failed-Negotiations-Might-Be-Better''.

Call it whatever you want. More Palestinians dislike Hamas than support them, and more Palestinians favour negotiations rather than gunfire.

As I said b4 I cannot speak for a palestinian who lost a family member to IDF
but it seems to me they are tired of losing there children.
nichodemus
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I said
"All the above mentioned districts were annexed to India other han sindh."
but forgot to typ T b4 "han"
"t"+ "han" = "than"


Right thanks. I saw it wrongly, my bad.

As I said b4 I cannot speak for a palestinian who lost a family member to IDF
but it seems to me they are tired of losing there children.


It is clearly a trend that Palestinians want peace and are willing to recognise Israel in return for a return to the 1967 borders, as shown in the lessening numbers of Palestinians who want war.
thepunisher93
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It is clearly a trend that Palestinians want peace and are willing to recognise Israel in return for a return to the 1967 borders, as shown in the lessening numbers of Palestinians who want war.

you forgot to add "no matter what the reason is."
nichodemus
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you forgot to add "no matter what the reason is."


I don't see how I can fit that in, nor can I see your point in adding it.
thepunisher93
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Reason = "but it seems to me they are tired of losing there children."
or gaza blockade
or increasing casualities.
As some one said before "sometimes giving the other side a better deal is only way to get what you want."

nichodemus
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or gaza blockade
or increasing casualities.
"but it seems to me they are tired of losing there children."


This is essentially the reason I gave - tired of war, and seeing that war is useless in getting a deal.
master565
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I think you are trying to say"Although you are right but I don't give a ****"


You thought wrong. I'm not agreeing with you, I'm just saying no matter which side is actually right, the side the world agrees with is what matters.
thepunisher93
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You thought wrong. I'm not agreeing with you, I'm just saying no matter which side is actually right, the side the world agrees with is what matters.

Being right matters.
thebluerabbit
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not going to go too deep in this one.

who decides who is right? who dicide what is right? when it comes to non-scientific matters the majority of people are to decide what is right and what is wrong. because of that the world is how it is, the laws are what they are etc. when it comes to math, science and other subjects that are all about being objective then the majority does not matter. but when it comes to history, morals, literature and things like that there is no right or wrong. and just because of that the majority of people is what decides what should and shouldnt be done.

master565
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Being right matters.


Not if majority of people don't care who is actually right, as long as what they think is right is accepted.
thepunisher93
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who decides who is right? who dicide what is right? when it comes to non-scientific matters the majority of people are to decide what is right and what is wrong. because of that the world is how it is, the laws are what they are etc. when it comes to math, science and other subjects that are all about being objective then the majority does not matter. but when it comes to history, morals, literature and things like that there is no right or wrong. and just because of that the majority of people is what decides what should and shouldnt be done.

No comment.
thebluerabbit
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No comment.


....so why did you comment?

or was this to show us that you read it? you still ignore it if you dont respond
zakyman
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Reason = "but it seems to me they are tired of losing there children."
or gaza blockade
or increasing casualities.


And 100% of those actions would stop if Hamas desisted from launching rockets into populated towns. Hamas is nothing more than a cowardly terrorist group, who resorts to kidnapping and suicide bombing to take out Israelis and get their own terrorist friends out of jail. Like I said earlier, if the Pals get a state, and a single rocket is launched, Israel should declare war on the Pals and the Pals couldn't to a darn thing when they lose their land.
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It is true that some actions of Hamas are wrong such as the killing of Jewish citizens through rocket attacks. In Islam, the killing of civilians and destruction of civilian infrastructure is prohibited.

But again when you see the Israeli blockade, it mostly affects civilians and not Hamas as not doubt Hamas uses tunnels to smuggle in weapons. These Israeli actions no doubt anger innocent Palestinian's and makes it all too easy for the Palestinian's to be misguided against Israel and this continues onwards in an infinite loop unless both sides immediately can reconcile and live peacefully.

During Prophet Muhammad's time (pbuh)in Medinah, Muslims and Jews lived along side each other peacefully with both sides respecting each other and providing support for each other. I believe this is how it should be. Should either side start a war, it would end in a vicious circle of violence in which neither side would solve their problems or attain peace.

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