I have a question to all believers, what's your reason for sticking to your religion? (meaning why do you do it faithfuly, if you just do it cause your parents do it then I don't think you really believe)
But if it didn't help him at all, he would've committed suicide at a younger age and he would've shared less works, right? Although it didn't help his writing directly, it kept him alive longer than if he had no coping device.
Being an alcoholic doesn't mean it helped in whatever career you had.
but I am breaking down the analogy of religion to beer.
Since neither necessarily helps advance a career, dosen't that also make them similar? Both are coping devices. Both are used by a lot of people. Taking too much of either is a bad thing.
Since neither necessarily helps advance a career, dosen't that also make them similar? Both are coping devices. Both are used by a lot of people. Taking too much of either is a bad thing.
Beer just knocks one out literally. Religion is much more complex, people find salvation through it via understanding the suffering of Christ, or praying, which requires a certain amount of faith rather than lifting a bottle to one's lips.
Since neither necessarily helps advance a career, dosen't that also make them similar?
Not just based on that characteristic. An apple can't walk, nor can a truck, so I suppose both are similar then?
As I said earlier, beer and religion can be compared in a crude fashion, but then it doesn't do justice to either.
In moderation, both are fine. There's a reason beer commercials say 'lease drink responsibly'. Religion causes terrorism and violence when people don't follow the directions.
In moderation, both are fine. There's a reason beer commercials say 'lease drink responsibly'. Religion causes terrorism and violence when people don't follow the directions.
Yeah, but if I had a red book, and you had a red balloon, that would be the same thing under your analogy.
Yeah, but if I had a red book, and you had a red balloon, that would be the same thing under your analogy.
I never said they were the exact same thing, just that they share some similarities. A true statement would be "a red book and a red balloon are similar because both are red in color and are both made of matter".
Palpatine, don't you know you just entered the same firing range 314d1 is in, now everytime you make a claim/point, at least 2 other people will go in and counter it, and then make shots at your sense of logic. It's a rather grim situation.
I never said they were the exact same thing, just that they share some similarities. A true statement would be "a red book and a red balloon are similar because both are red in color and are both made of matter".
but that's where the similarities end. what the flamer did earlier was make very crude and illogical comparisons by assuming things that are completely different were similar. you are much more reasonable, therefore I see no reason I need to start hitting you with a barage of my analytical text.
for your sake, I suggest getting out from the insides of the crosshairs.
but that's where the similarities end. what the flamer did earlier was make very crude and illogical comparisons by assuming things that are completely different were similar.
Yeah. He overcomplicated the analogy. I'm just simplifying what he was trying to say. I'm actually quite fine with religion, although I'm not a religious person myself, but extremism in anything isn't good.
In moderation, both are fine. There's a reason beer commercials say 'lease drink responsibly'. Religion causes terrorism and violence when people don't follow the directions.
Many of the religions with people acting in such a way have such instructions to do so. It's the moderates not following the instructions.
Many of the religions with people acting in such a way have such instructions to do so. It's the moderates not following the instructions.
Well, I can't speak for the rest of the world, but in Singapore, any religious group stepping out of line and inciting hate, harm or attacking other religions/atheists are shot metaphorically by the government and the public.
So your god is a beer then? No, a beer doesn't require you to have a moral code relevant to what it believes. A beer would be better in this situation.
Even I find what you're saying to be offensive, 314d1, and I'm an atheist...honestly, you could afford to be a little more respectful. Bear in mind that many peoples' lives have been improved by religion, and that it is very important to many other people. Anyway, I think that you are misinterpreting the nature of the change in emotion. The emotions caused by beer are a physical affectation that causes feeling, whereas the emotions caused by religion are a feeling. Religion is not so much something that makes you feel better when you're sad, as something that is with you always, through good times and bad. It comforts people to think there is something there, and if I could seriously make myself believe in a God, I would. And it's not only the belief, but the sense of togetherness and community of the church. You would have an automatic family in the people who believe the same thing as you. There may very well be a connection between you, and some random person halfway around the globe, because you believe the same thing. Now, yes, that same thing exists in atheism to a smaller degree, but atheism just isn't the same as a religion. Thousands of people have willingly laid down their lives for what they believed in. I very much doubt that anyone's ever martyred themselves for a beer. A temporary warmness in the chest and fuzziness in the head caused by a chemical reaction is not the same thing as a feeling of reassurance that comes from yourself, from within.
Bear in mind that many peoples' lives have been improved by religion
Many lives have also been ended in the name of religion. Extremists, crusaders, etc. Again, it's the people's choice to do those things and they're usually a minority, but even moderates who do things because their church leader said it was ok wouldn't have done such things if there was no 'enlightened influence'. Like the 'Christian' cult leaders who tell people to commit mass suicide.
but even moderates who do things because their church leader said it was ok wouldn't have done such things if there was no 'enlightened influence'. Like the 'Christian' cult leaders who tell people to commit mass suicide.
Yes, but that is still no reason to make like 314d1, and just rail against religion in general!
