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gamer66618
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We all know that global warming is when the sun rays get trapped underneath the excess carbon dioxide, methane and other greenhouse gases, causing the sun rays to bounce back off it and stay in earth causing the temperature to rise. What do you think about it? Do you think that it is real? Or just a media hype?

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scientific field of research.


It's not really a field of research. It's also not a scientific theory. It is a term for the global rise in temperatures.

Now for my two cents.


I really hate that term...it's so over-used.
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Penny for your thoughts Kasic?

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Penny for your thoughts Kasic?


Well my thoughts are basically the same as Wolf1991's. There is data showing that over the past 300 years global temperatures have been rising and that this corresponds to CO2 emissions. However, the earth also naturally cycles between ice ages and warm times, and we've been coming out of an ice age. By how much we're influencing global warming is yet to be determined, but I personally don't think that even if we just stopped all CO2 emissions somehow that global warming would reverse, however it would probably slow down.

As for the two-cents thing, I have seen that used so many times I throw up in my mouth a little every time I see it. Your thoughts should be obvious that it's either your opinion or a conjecture resulting from data and thus it is not necessary to remind everyone every time that you post that you have an opinion and that your post is that.
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As for the two-cents thing, I have seen that used so many times I throw up in my mouth a little every time I see it. Your thoughts should be obvious that it's either your opinion or a conjecture resulting from data and thus it is not necessary to remind everyone every time that you post that you have an opinion and that your post is that.


It's just a habit of speech people have. Why so serious over it?
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It's just a habit of speech people have. Why so serious over it?


Another forum I go to and have been at for around 2 years now. About 95% of the people have been using it every other post and it is so annoying. I'm also not one to just accept things simply because people do them, like mispronouncing simple words or not saying certain letters. (R's as L's, etc.)
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I'm also not one to just accept things simply because people do them, like mispronouncing simple words or not saying certain letters.


*Shrugs*. I always throw in a hey, lah, lor, meh, seh, or other weird monosyllabic Singlish noises, so thank goodness I type not speak.
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Well my thoughts are basically the same as Wolf1991's. There is data showing that over the past 300 years global temperatures have been rising and that this corresponds to CO2 emissions. However, the earth also naturally cycles between ice ages and warm times, and we've been coming out of an ice age. By how much we're influencing global warming is yet to be determined, but I personally don't think that even if we just stopped all CO2 emissions somehow that global warming would reverse, however it would probably slow down.


This will probably be the only post I make in this thread considering this is pretty much my belief as well.

I find it interesting that after "The Inconvenient Truth" came out so many people freaked out about Global Warming. When something like that happens I always wonder if the creator in this case Al Gore, really believes their stance or if they're just trying to capitalize on the opportunity to make a bunch of people worried.

I'd be much more worried about Acid Rain and Deforestation than Global Warming.
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Why would he want to cause a widespread panic?

Anyway, acid rain and deforestation are tied to global warming, acid rain is caused by the emissions of factories that also cause the hole in the ozone, and deforestation takes away trees that can absorb greenhouse gases.

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Anyway, acid rain and deforestation are tied to global warming, acid rain is caused by the emissions of factories that also cause the hole in the ozone, and deforestation takes away trees that can absorb greenhouse gases


They are tied to a scientific theory, a theory that is based on temperature samples from a very limited time period. That theory doesn't take into account the natural occurrences of extreme temperature variation throughout the history of the planet, in particular completely ignoring a warm period during the middle ages.

I'm not saying the theory is right or wrong, but everything is pinned on a scientific theory which ignores other factors and concludes that it is purely the result of man's industrial activities that has caused the increase in global temperatures.

Graphs showing the steady increase in CO2 do not directly correlate with the increases in temperatures, whereas there have been graphs showing increased activity in our sun producing solar flares and the like that does correlate with the temperature variations. This is ignored for some reason. There has been various papers written that discredit the theory that CO2 emissions are increasing global temperatures, but again, these are ignored by those pushing the CO2 theory.

As far as Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth, the real inconvenient truth is that there was initially believed to be 11 errors in it, but now that has increased to a staggering 35 errors. And they're not small insignificant errors either. The film is filled with a catalogue of untruths and exaggerations, ranging from the rise is sea levels to thermohaline circulation stopping and not least that CO2 is driving temperature. Primarily, the last one is because Al Gore concentrated on the now-discredited âhockey stickâ graph that falsely attempted to abolish the Mediaeval Warm Period.

The science is incomplete and filled with contradictions, so the jury as they say is still out on the CO2 theory.
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It all in the end depends on finding more data, though just keep our fingers crossed before anything drastic happens.

Either way, investing in renewable and cleaner fuel sources would be inevitable, and if it cures global warming if the theory is true, then so much the better.

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Completely agree with you there. The future is definitely in renewables and automatically this should lead to less reliance on fossil fuels, if not simply for resource management as the world's population increases.

The problem is I personally don't think it will resolve the temperature variations, so we still have to put in place some plans to deal with some extreme weather conditions just in case.

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The problem is I personally don't think it will resolve the temperature variations, so we still have to put in place some plans to deal with some extreme weather conditions just in case.


Ah well. I live in constant 35 celsius heat, colder, or hotter, I might welcome it.
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Unfortunately the UK is at the mercy of the Gulf Stream and various other factors which leads to unpredictable weather. We're currently having double figure temperatures when we should be close to zero, and rather than a white Christmas, we've experienced one of the wettest.

It sort of suits me because my work involves lots of travel and it is a welcome relief not to have icy roads in the early mornings.

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Well, do you live further up North or nearer the Channel?

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I live in northern England in a relatively flat area, but I work all over the UK so I've spent a lot of time recently negotiating some of the higher points (geographically).

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