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Dewi1066
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Something that bugs me about films at the moment is everything seems to have to have a sequel. Pirates of the Caribbean would have been just fine as a one off film, but 3 sequels followed it, each getting progressively worse.

Now it appears it is Blade Runners turn...

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2011/11/04/ridley-scott-says-he%E2%80%99ll-direct-%E2%80%98blade-runner%E2%80%99-sequel/

For anyone who hasn't seen it, it is an early '80s cult classic film based on the exploits of a lawman who hunts rogue androids. It brought Ruger Hauer to our screens along with Harrison Ford and Daryl Hannah. For the time the special effects were brilliant, the story was one you could really get into and the climax to the film was unexpected.

But a sequel? Why? The film ended, well I won't tell you the end in case you haven't seen it, but lets just say it didn't lead to a sequel. 30 years on, they haven't found a writer, they have no idea what the story will be and they have no cast lined up, but they announce there will be a sequel.

Not all films need or deserve a sequel. What next? A sequel to 300? 301 - The Revenge of the Persians?

Anyone else think this is weird? Or do you have another film that had a sequel you thought wasn't needed, or one that did need a sequel but it was never made?

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I can't say I enjoy some movie Sequels.... but I mean, I don't go through the movie trying to see if they screwed up the original story line. I watch movies for the purpose of entertainment, and if it kept me happy or content enough to keep watching until the end, I think it did a good job.

Then again, that is how I watch movies... Some of you probably do what I said I didn't do, therefore our opinions conflicting... But whatever.

Kung Fu Panda 2! It was a good sequel.

National Treasure was a decent-ish thing. I enjoyed it, but I don't think they focused on the treasure finding enough, as much as they did the first one because it was the money maker....

The Dark Knight was simply amazing. I think it was wonderful. But I don't want them to have the Joker, that spot is reserved.

The Mummy.... It had a good second, and an utterly horrid third ._.

The Matrix would've been fine on it's own. It didn't need all the others.

Spiderman was just overrated. Maybe it's just because I hate the cast with the exclusion of Harry :3

I actually like Avatar. Sure it was overrated, but it was interesting to have a popular fantasy movie that had pretty freaking awesome graphics.

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Spiderman was just overrated. Maybe it's just because I hate the cast with the exclusion of Harry :3


I liked Spiderman, but number 3 was a little draggy, and too moody for my taste.

Right, I'm not supposed to watch it, but Hangover had a sequel that was on par with the first, or even beat it.
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THE HANGOVER IS AMAZING! Both of them. Because you can't go wrong with going crazy!

nichodemus
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They mentioned that they were going to take III in a newer direction and make it end with a bang. I am totally looking forward to it.

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Back to the Future anyone? I still haven't been able to sit through the third one.
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The main Shrek movies are actually all pretty good but there is just too many awful spinoffs.

I'm really disappointed The Golden Compass and Eragon won't have movie sequels, because the although the movies were pretty average the books were amazing.

Two more things that should never have been continued, for very, very different reasons: Twilight and Pokemon.

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Oh wait, His Dark Materials won't have another movie? D: What the....

MoonFairy
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Oh my gosh I thought I was the only one who had even seen the Eragon movie here. The movie did a good job sticking to the book facts, but it left huge parts out. They were planning on making Eldest, but it wasn't popular enough. They might now that Inheritance has come out...

Dewi1066
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Jaws


How many times can a killer shark be killed. 4 times apparently, definitely didn't need sequels.

The Matrix


The first movie stood on it's own two feet, the sequels were rubbish.

Shrek


Shrek 2 made sense, but the 3rd one was just cashing in.

Pirates of the Caribbean


As earlier, 2nd one was rubbish, 3rd one bloated and overdone and the 4th was surprisingly good.

The Mummy


First film stood on it's own, should have been left at that.

Cars


Didn't need a sequel, but it's popularity led to the 2nd film. You can understand it to a point, but it didn't need a sequel.

Ice Age


One of the few films were I understand the sequels, and each film has become better than the last.

Rocky


Rocky 2 made sense. Apollo's pride meant he was never going to keep to his word over there being no rematch. But Rocky 3 and 4 were mistakes and Rocky 5 was trying to cash in, but was dire.

My personal list of failed sequels include:

Ghostbusters 2 - why oh why did they make that film?

Transporter 2 and 3 - whats the point?

Smoking Aces 2 - about as much fun as chewing a cushion.

Beverly Hills Copy 3 - the 2nd one was hilarious, but to make a 3rd? It spoiled the first 2 because it was so rubbish.

Boon Dock Saints 2 - complete and total rubbish, made for the sake of a few fans who couldn't just accept that the first was a stand alone film.

Rambo 3 - what a mistake that turned out to be!

I could go on for ages, but you get the idea.

Good sequels though:

Bourne Identity - made sense to follow it through to the end.

Kill Bill - but essentially the 2 films were just one long story.

Lord of The Rings - no explanation needed

Again, could go on forever. I love films I do.
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Has anyone read the LOTR books? They're the real story, and yet people prefer the movies (even though they haven't read the books)

The Harry Potter sequels were pretty good, grimmer and grimmer as they went along though.

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Has anyone read the LOTR books? They're the real story, and yet people prefer the movies (even though they haven't read the books)



They kept most of the storyline but edited out major bits.
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Very few sequels outdo the originals. Terminator 2, The Dark Knight, and Aliens are the only great ones I can think of right now.


Terminator 2 is one of my favourite movies of all time. It outdid the original by far.

I'm not saying all of the sequels were bad (except for Jaws), but they seemed like filler to make money and didn't really progress any characters or ideas beyond what the original did.


I disagree with POTC + The Matrix. The Matrix trilogy flows seamlessly and I'm not sure if it was conceived as a trilogy but it certainly could seem like it was even if it wasn't (but I think it was)...make sense? xD And that is the sign of a good sequel.

The same goes for Pirates of the Caribbean. The first one might be the best, but the second and third don't seem out of place. The fourth however...it was okay :P

Total Recall can't be remade... it was an Arnie classic, wouldn't be the same film without him.


Agreed. He MADE that movie.

I heard from a lot of people that it's much better than the original, but I haven't seen it yet myself.


Just saw the second one last weekend. Never saw the first. But I do not need to because this one was a great movie on it's own.

Right, I'm not supposed to watch it, but Hangover had a sequel that was on par with the first, or even beat it.


THE HANGOVER IS AMAZING! Both of them. Because you can't go wrong with going crazy!


I hope you guys are kidding...I don't know a single person who enjoyed the second one near as much. Hell, I barely even laughed.

They kept most of the storyline but edited out major bits.


This bugged me a little. Solved quote a bit though if you watch the extended edition of the trilogy xD 13 hours lolol
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[quote]I heard from a lot of people that it's much better than the original, but I haven't seen it yet myself.


Just saw the second one last weekend. Never saw the first. But I do not need to because this one was a great movie on it's own.[/quote]

- Sorry the first quote was about Sherlock Homes 2. I realized that I picked a quote that wasn't very specific so it could make what I said confusing...

[quote]They kept most of the storyline but edited out major bits.


This bugged me a little. Solved quote a bit though if you watch the extended edition of the trilogy xD 13 hours lolol[/quote]

First quote is about the lord of the rings trilogy in relation to the books :P

---> Clarity failure lol

Sorry for DP :P
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Kung Fu Panda 2! It was a good sequel.

Sure was, but dont think it could happen again. CEO of Dreamworks annouced that Kungfu Panda will have a total of 6 installments. Whether their good or not we will have to see.
nichodemus
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Sure was, but dont think it could happen again. CEO of Dreamworks annouced that Kungfu Panda will have a total of 6 installments. Whether their good or not we will have to see.


SIX???!!!! I'm going to cuss my lungs out. There's only so much Jack Black I can take.
Dewi1066
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Had to look that up to see whether it was right, and not only are they planning another 6 installments of Kung Fu Panda, but another 2 of Madagascar!

Considering my kids love all these animated films, I'm going to be driven nuts by them. I must have seen Despicable Me about 200 times so far!

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