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holt24
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So dudes I just now read this article that I found interesting.

S what do you think of the english doing that? Was it good? was it bad?
Do you not care? Post your reasons for supporting it or being against it down below.

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SpikeDee
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Pretty much sums up my thoughts about you.

Avorne
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I am sorry to all who are gonna have to endure this extremely long quote but...

Reaching out to those in need is central to Jewish being. Jews are commanded to give at least ten percent of their net income to charity. Tzedakah boxes for collecting coins for those in need can be found in central places in Jewish homes. It is common to see Jewish youth, in Israel and in the Diaspora, going door-to-door to collect money for worthy causes.

Obligated to Give

Tzedakah literally means righteousness in Hebrew. In the bible, tzedakah is used to refer to justice, kindness, ethical behavior and the like. In post-biblical Hebrew, tzedakah refers to charity, giving to those in need.

The words justice and charity have different meanings in English. How is it that in Hebrew, one word, tzedakah, has been translated to mean both justice and charity?

This translation is consistent with Jewish thought as Judaism considers charity to be an act of justice. Judaism holds that people in need have a legal right to food, clothing and shelter that must be honored by more fortunate people. According to Judaism, it is unjust and even illegal for Jews to not give charity to those in need.

Thus, giving charity in Jewish law and tradition is viewed as obligatory self­-taxation, rather than voluntary donation.

Importance of Giving

According to one ancient sage, charity is equal in importance to all the other commandments combined.

The High Holiday prayers state that God has inscribed a judgment against all who have sinned, but teshuvah (repentance), tefilah (prayer) and tzedakah can reverse the decree.

The duty to give is so important in Judaism that even recipients of charity are obligated to give something. However, people should not give to the point where they themselves become needy.

Guidelines for Giving

The Torah and Talmud provide Jews with guidelines on the how, what and when of giving to the poor. The Torah commanded Jews to give ten percent of their earnings to the poor every third year (Deuteronomy 26:12) and an additional percentage of their income annually (Leviticus 19:9­10). After the Temple was destroyed, the annual tithe levied upon each Jew for support of the Temple priests and their assistants was suspended. The Talmud instructed Jews to give at least ten percent of their annual net income to tzedakah (Maimonides, Mishneh Torah, "Laws Concerning Gifts for the Poor," 7:5).

Maimonides devotes ten chapters in his Mishneh Torah to instructions on how to give to the poor. He describes eight different levels of tzedakah according to their degree of merit. He asserts that the most meritorious level of charity is helping someone to become self-supporting.

One can fulfill the obligation to give tzedakah by giving money to the poor, to health care institutions, to synagogues or to educational institutions. Supporting grown children and elderly parents is also a form of tzedakah. The obligation to give tzedakah includes giving to both Jews and gentiles.

Beneficiaries: Recipient, Donor, World

According to Jewish tradition, the spiritual benefit of giving charity is so great that the giver benefits even more than the recipient. By giving charity, Jews recognize the good that God has given to them. Some scholars see charitable donation as a replacement for animal sacrifice in Jewish life in that it is a way to show thanks to and ask forgiveness from God. Contributing toward the welfare of others is a central and fulfilling part of one's Jewish identity.

Jews have a mandate to improve the world in which they live (tikkun olam). Tikkun olam is achieved through the performance of good deeds. The Talmud states that the world rests on three things: Torah, service to God, and deeds of kindness (gemilut hasadim).

Tzedakah is a good deed that is made in partnership with God. According to Kabbalah (Jewish mysticism), the word tzedakah comes from the word tzedek, which means righteous. The only difference between the two words is the Hebrew letter "hey", which represents the Divine name. Kabbalists explain that tzedakah is a partnership between the righteous and God, acts of tzedakah are permeated with God's goodness, and giving tzedakah can make the world a better place.

As the United Jewish Communities (UJC) collects funds for the victims of Hurricane Katrina, the philanthropic nature of American Jewry, derived from Judaism's emphasis on doing of good deeds and caring for those in need, is being affirmed.
holt24
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who cares your thoughts newb?


Dude everyone has to start somewhere.
SpikeDee
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If post count equals relevancy, I'm afraid Avorne has the upper hand on you, bro.

Asherlee
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Guys, personal attacks do not have a place here. Chill out and make it a clean debate.

Avorne
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Yes, sorry - I did deviate slightly from point. However, most of my points do still stand and are valid.

-Prom has yet to provide solid evidence of what he is saying
-Prom is labouring under the misapprehension that Jewish people are 'greedy'.

Avorne
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And you are crossing the line when you say all jews should die. Think about that one. Jews are not greedy - and for the love of God if you have evidence that they are then provide it now!

Avorne
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Not really - Turkish is a 'lesser' language. I don't devote any time to it. However, I can use Google Translate to get the gist of it if you like.

Avorne
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Yeah - I'll get the basic gist of it.

Avorne
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No I'm not - would you like a picture of my penis to prove it? I see nothing wrong with being a Jew though - I'd happily be one. Stop hatin' and start with the proof that all Jews are evil and greedy - you don't seem to have any though.

BlackVortex
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There are always a few rotten eggs everywhere Prom.. you can't lump them all together, except America, those fat bastards.

Avorne
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Tell me - if I was to post a link to a case about a Turkish r apist - would it be right of me to group all Turks together and say "All Turks must be R apists because this guy is!"?

holt24
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There are always a few rotten eggs everywhere Prom.. you can't lump them all together, except America, those fat bastards.


Leave America out of this. We saved your behinds in two world wars at least have a little respect.
BlackVortex
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We saved your behinds in two world wars at least have a little respect.


Haha, I'll leave that one alone.
Avorne
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holt - you guys jumped in at the last minute and decided to declare that you had 'won'. We saved your arses on numerous occasions so don't forget it.

Also, I don't need to move to Zion - I'm quite happy in England thanks. Where would the place I live in matter? If the Jewish people need someone to champion their cause then I shall gladly defend them from racist neo-nazis like you.

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