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Linktopast30
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I'm starting this topic to "continue" a conversation started in the Christians vs. Catholics thread. I will include some of the details from there, but the rest are up to anyone new to read up on. I will specifically post the contents of one post, more or less.

We did not baptize Adolf Hitler. That is a lie. After people baptized for Obama's mother, an official release was sent out saying that unless you specifically know the person who's name you are bringing in to do temple work for (not the names that they already have) or they are in your family, you cannot do temple work for them.

We are not barred from being around ex Mormons. We do not necessarily believe they are with Satan. We excommunicate people for their good. In our views, it gives them a second chance. They can rejoin the church later, and their sins will be gone, just as they were when they were first baptized. I know many ex Mormons, and I do not get in trouble for being with them.

South Park is in no way an authority on anything. The fact that you're trying to cite that is pathetic.

Yes, there was polygamy. But it was revoked in the 1890's (even if only for legal reasons). Joseph Smith did not try to burn down a newspaper place. He was taken to jail for no real reason. If he shot back, it was only because they were shooting at him.

The reason non members are not allowed in the temple is because of the sacred things that go on in there. If just anyone was allowed in, the spirit would be disrupted. I will expound on this if needs be.

I am personally ashamed of the acts of other Latter-Day Saints who have done temple work for people without permission from relatives of that person. It is wrong, and we know it.

Tithing... It was actually in Christ's day when it started. The only reason it affects our worthiness to enter the temple (not our standing in general). The Lord gave us everything we have, and all he asks is 10% of what we earn. I'd say that's a pretty small price for life, liberty, and happiness.

Also, we believe in Agency and Accountability. You can choose to do what you want, but you will have to accept the consequences.

I have a testimony of Jesus Christ. He is my savior and my redeemer. I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God, and that Thomas S. Monson is the living prophet today. I believe the Bible to be true as far as it is correctly translated. I know that through the Atonement of Jesus Christ, we can be forgiven for our sins and return to live with our Heavenly Father. I have seen the Atonement in action in my life. I know that God listens to all prayers to him. He answers them in his own way. I know that I can make it to the Celestial Kingdom if I but do my best to keep the commandments of God.

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indie55
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There is no such thing as 'knowing a religion is true', religions are based on faith not fact,...

I agree with this. All religions are based on an individuals belief in a certain ideology.
cmb2kool
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@ Avorne & Indie

I do have faith in this church, but I know in my heart, and my faith tells me that this church is true. I'm not close minded just because I believe in what I do.

Kasic
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but I know in my heart


How do you know? What makes it so?

my faith tells me that this church is true.


I'll bet you $50 that you were born a Mormon. Do I win?
Avorne
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Since when was the human heart capable of knowing things? That is called faith and it is most definitely not something related to ones heart.

cmb2kool
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@ Avorne @ Kasic I know in my heart because of faith and it's sorta a figure of speech.

2. Actually no I was not born in the Church, I win, you dont have to pay me though.
My grandparents are Jehovah witnesses and still are, and my family was converted, by missionaries that at first we rejected, but then let in and opened up discussion and learned many things.

cmb2kool
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Have you ever let missionaries in your home? I

MageGrayWolf
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Since when was the human heart capable of knowing things? That is called faith and it is most definitely not something related to ones heart.


No need to argue semantics. It would seem what he is trying to convey is that he feels that what he believes is correct. Though personal emotions towards something is a poor gauge in determining reality and I would hardly call it knowing.

Have you ever let missionaries in your home?


My mom had and we had trouble getting rid of them afterward.
Kasic
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Jester

Have you ever let missionaries in your home?


I've never actually had any Mormon missionaries come to my home, although I have had Jehovah Witnesses come knocking, they just gave me a pamphlet and said I could call them if I had any questions.

my family was converted


How old were you when this happened?
cmb2kool
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Were they eve rude or disrespectful in anyway? They were trying to explain to you how things worked. Do not frown upon Missionaries because they were trying to teach you. Did you ever say Stop coming im not interested. If not thats your fault

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Were they eve rude or disrespectful in anyway? They were trying to explain to you how things worked. Do not frown upon Missionaries because they were trying to teach you. Did you ever say Stop coming im not interested. If not thats your fault


I don't have all the details of how they behaved as I largely stayed out of it, but my mom did states she was not interested in joining the Mormon church. It finally came down to several phone calls and simply not answering the door to their almost weekly visits before they got the idea.
cmb2kool
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But did she tell them to not come back?

cmb2kool
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P.S also it's their duty to try to teach people, they were just trying to be nice people.

Avorne
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There you go, see what I was talking about earlier? In fulfilling their duties, it seems, the missionaries are indeed bothering others.

cmb2kool
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It also states on your profile that your an atheist, and I respect that. I know many people personally and they are good people and i hang put with them. But you can leave out beliefs alone and quit trying to say t

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hat missionaries are annoying, they just doing what they believe in

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