Wouldn't these private health care companies just fail before mighty people's health care? I say they all should be nationalized.
why nationalizing the private sector? lets try it the democratic way. the governement comes up with his health care plans. if it gives better options to all people, noone will longer pay private companies, and they simply leave the market.
if this does not happen then leave the private sector to the people.
let them decide. and let democracy on which we all agree that it is right, to make the decisions that have to be made
Because people who are to lazy to work don't deserve health care.
Socialism doesn't work. It just evolves into communism which is fail in general. Look at how happy all the people in communist countries are *looks at China*.
Socialism doesn't work. It just evolves into communism which is fail in general. Look at how happy all the people in communist countries are *looks at China*.
Socialim works, Russia became a super power because of it and Sweden saved its economy from collapse in the 1990s with it. And it has most certianly never become the Marxist Utopia that Karl Marx called "Communism" ever in history like you said.
Capitalism typically refers to an economic and social system in which trade, industry and the means of production (also known as capital) are privately controlled (either singly or jointly) and operated for a profit, where of course the citizen doesn't count. The citizen doesn't count and everything is controlled by the big companies. There is almost no freedom of speech and the laws can easily change so the companies can achieve their goals. Socialism refers to any one of various theories of economic organization advocating public or cooperative worker self-ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods, and a society characterized by equal access to resources for all individuals with a more egalitarian method of compensation. Socialism is also the transitional stage from capitalism to communism. My opinion is that socialism can be better.
I didn't say so much a marxist utopia, but it is communism nonetheless.
The word "communism" and the very system known as "communism" was invented by Karl Marx...
Socialism is also the transitional stage from capitalism to communism. My opinion is that socialism can be better
Well now socialism doesn't have to become a communist state in which there is no government and everything is just run by the community. Karl Marx, who believed that socialism was impractical compared with his system, thought that the government would dissolve away because the people are so accustomed to working and operating without being ruled. And when you think about the merits democratic socialism, that seems very logical. Especially since everything is already owned by the public and the tax payers make most of the decisions. Eventually you'd start to think that they would learn to live without a government, or that they wouldn't even need one anymore.
There is almost no freedom of speech and the laws can easily change so the companies can achieve their goals
WRONG. You should do some research on capitalism to understand it better before you post things.
tax payers make most of the decisions
Under socialism... it's actually the government that makes the decisions, but they are elected as representatives by the people so one version of socialism is "Where the people own the industries and they are ran by the people via the government."
But because all the representatives in America are idiots we're all pretty screwed...
Interesting conversations guys. I like the debates going on in here. Yes communism helped many countries. It helped them grow from poverty. It is a great way to get people together to pull out of hard times. But in the long run, communism fails because people start asking for more, and the government can only do so much. It keeps everyone at one level, when some people would like to excel and grow their wealth. It is also much easier for a communist country to become corrupt, because the few in charge have total power.
That's another reason why communism sucks. Everyone is made equal. If a person is successful and has a prospering career and they make a lot of money then they get it taken away by the government and the money gets given to people who don't work. That isn't fair. I think that people who earn money should get it and it shouldn't be given to lazy bums. But again, that might just be me...
Pure capitalism is a complete failure without socialist reforms. With out socialistic reforms there would be no regulations that limit harmful practices corporations often do. There would be no welfare, there would be no bail out for economically important companies that fail like airlines and worst of all no one is preventing monopolies from taking jobs away and ruining competition. We know pure communism doesn't work and we know that pure capitalism doesn't work either. What we need is a mix of the two different economic theories. Socialism provides a moderation of government control and a free market economy. Wal-Mart would be a private company still under socialism. But under socialism, all of its employees would have free health care for life. I wouldn't mind that not having to worry about whether or not I could pay my hospital bills every time I went for something serious. You put international trade and important companies like electricity and oil under control then no one can complain about being under the mercy of people who only want your money while private retail remains as happy as can be.
There would be no welfare, there would be no bail out for economically important companies
Those are both things that we DON'T want though.
You put international trade and important companies like electricity and oil under control then no one can complain about being under the mercy of people who only want your money while private retail remains as happy as can be.
How exactly would someone be under the control of a company?
