ForumsWEPRSocialism Vs Capitalism.

413 62487
Drace
offline
Drace
3,880 posts
Nomad

I'm for socialism =)

Capitalism sucks

  • 413 Replies
Drace
offline
Drace
3,880 posts
Nomad

Thats not true.
And has no one ever heard of democratic socialism!

Drace
offline
Drace
3,880 posts
Nomad

""The reason I don't like socialism is because it is unfair. Yes, it looks fair since everyone makes the same money. However, why would people even want to work hard? What do you think would happen with the medical, police, and fire department forces? I doubt they would be working their tails off. Kids would not even try in school. So, in about 5-10 years, we would have very few doctors and other jobs that require years of college. What would they do if they can't find enough doctors? They would just look for people who are unskilled in that job and who don't even really want to do the job. Now we are being taken care of by people who could care less. Eventually people get fed up and riot. Wars break out and chaos comes."

Aha. Kids would not try in school!?
My dad was in the Soviet Armenia.
He complains how kids here today are retards.

Socialism is fair..

"They would just look for people who are unskilled in that job and who don't even really want to do the job."

False. And why not make a change.
Whats wrong with different wages?
You can have that is socialism."

"What do you think would happen with the medical, police, and fire department forces? "

What makes you think working harder here means any more money???
No lol the only chance you get is in high school. But once you get your job as a police officer, your not gonna work any harder. Why? because working harder doesnt mean any more money from you does it!
You only get promotions if you work long enough. Its by years.

But the education is so poor, people dont mind it. Wtf you think you can tell a little go, go work hard so you can make lots of money when you grow up? NO!
A kid has no idea and with a poor education system like this you cant blame them.

Xzeno
offline
Xzeno
2,301 posts
Nomad

Thanks for for explaining your opinions in so much detail, fable112. Anywho: Capitalism is the better of the two. Socialism: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. Cute. The problem is, of course, people don't want to give up what's theirs. For them to give up their stuff, you need a strong government. Say, a Dictatorship. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

TotalReview
offline
TotalReview
803 posts
Shepherd

total review is wrong go socialism


Well, I guess there are a lot of people wrong then.
Drace
offline
Drace
3,880 posts
Nomad

Let me explain this...

But the education is so poor, people dont mind it. Wtf you think you can tell a little go, go work hard so you can make lots of money when you grow up? NO!
A kid has no idea and with a poor education system like this you cant blame them.


The education system is lousy. It has no motivations whatsoever. IT TEACHES NOTHING. I have been through the education in America and I get As but I learned nothing. Waste of timeee. Students will separate from education and you cant blame them. They can rather be playing games at home.

So to make this work, youd have to make the parent the government of the child and give them ultimate rights so they make sure there son stays in school.

If that made any sense :-$

___

And Xzeno...you need a strong government until a new generation is set.
So the old forget that they had any possessions. The SU almost did it.
Drace
offline
Drace
3,880 posts
Nomad

Actually not even until a new generation. People will forget that they had a nice life being rich back then. And know that this is a small majority of those who own businesses and such.

You only have to worry about the rich and upper class.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Class_distribution_US.svg

Drace
offline
Drace
3,880 posts
Nomad

Well, I guess there are a lot of people wrong then.


There is. See if you teach that communism is evil in school, then every one living in the US will be a capitalist for the same reasons, most which never gave it real thought.
Whats funny is that if you lived in SU, it was the opposite.
They would tell you how great communism was.
Graham
offline
Graham
8,051 posts
Nomad

Sooo working harder means no more money

Makes the workers lazy, not rewarded for doing good (demoralizer), and an 85 year old bag of bones would be head chief. Now that doesn't seem very fair.

According to this.
Oh yays another analogy: A dog learns tricks when they are puppies, you give them treats. A dog becomes bigger and learns to do the trick on command or hand gesture, you don't give them treats but give him treats only for the earlier years tricks it learned. A really old dog gets the most treats for doing the same thing every day.

So it would be as if.. You do not get to learn anymore once you have a job! That's it, all you get is highschool and nothing more!

Drace
offline
Drace
3,880 posts
Nomad

So it would be as if.. You do not get to learn anymore once you have a job! That's it, all you get is highschool and nothing more!


WTF?
The SU was strict on their education and they had free education to anyone. And I mean universities too.
The SU was kicking the US's ass in the Cold War. Even if they lost (even though a lot of people say US faked the moon landing) the way you say it is that they would have gotten no where at all since they were all just stupid retards.

Lol most of the arguments you give are just wrong.

"Sooo working harder means no more money"

You dont need more money in socialism society. You have good amount of food, clothes, whatever the hell you need. And most things are free so...

Do you need hundred dollar bills to make you feel good about yourself?

And like I said, SU actually payed different wages.
Ricador
offline
Ricador
3,722 posts
Shepherd

total review is wrong go socialism


Wow. Then like TotalReview said, a lot of people are wrong, including about 97%of the worlds countries governments.

Also, how about giving a few reasons and logic instead of just being a critic.
Drace
offline
Drace
3,880 posts
Nomad

Do I have give you some charts or something?

Graham
offline
Graham
8,051 posts
Nomad

AHA! You only get what you NEED
Food, Water, and Shelter!
You do not need entertainment
You do not need a computer to stick around and try to convert people to Socialism

Yes I would like 100$ to buy candy and feel good for about 20 minutes!
Quick Satisfaction is the best...

TotalReview
offline
TotalReview
803 posts
Shepherd

Also, how about giving a few reasons and logic instead of just being a critic.


Ricador just spoke the truth right here!
Drace
offline
Drace
3,880 posts
Nomad

"AHA! You only get what you NEED
Food, Water, and Shelter!
You do not need entertainment
You do not need a computer to stick around and try to convert people to Socialism"

Haha,
Not true.
your saying if I was the leader i couldn't provide people with computers?

Socialism is an idea. Ideas can be refmoreddd! =D

Graham
offline
Graham
8,051 posts
Nomad

At least I'm not a hipocritical critic :\\
"You have good amount of food, clothes, whatever the hell you need"

Showing 61-75 of 413